Tuesday, September 25, 2007

The black heart


About 1,000,000 deaths and 1,500,000 Injured Iraqi civilians since the beginning of the war in 2003 , an estimation of 4,000,000 Iraqis have been displaced with 2,200,000 fled out of the country and the rest are refugees inside their own torn country (I believe the real number of Iraqis outside Iraq is greater than this).

Great numbers , right? a lot of zeros , a lot of grief and sadness , a lot of humiliation , a lot of black clothes , rivers of tears and many shocking stories , it's not just numbers . Just count all the people you knew throughout your life , not only the ones you talk to , but all the people you know, what their count will be?500 or may be 1000? let's say 1000. Can you imagine that all the people you know are only 0.1% of the civilian casualties in Iraq.

with those huge numbers and that great pain , I only want to know why? why all those people had to die? Why all those people had to leave their homes their jobs and their beloved to escape from Iraq and be humiliated , be an immigrant.Why is that?Why Iraqis have to leave their beautiful homes and live in a tent in the middle of the desert , why do they have to be refugees in their own country?
Why every scientist , doctor , former army members and jet fighter pilots have to be killed or threatened?
Why there is no one left in Iraq?Why did every one leave Iraq to keep his life?Why all of this is happening to Iraq and Iraqis ? I believe what happens in Iraq didn't happen anywhere in the world throughout the history of the mankind.
Who is responsible for all of this?
Who is responsible for the 40,000 undefined dead bodies which were buried in the Najaf cemetery alone , just in Najaf cemetery ! Whose responsibility that 22% of households had lost a member to violence during the occupation?
Is it the US government and troops? is it Al-Qaida? Is it the Sunni militias? or maybe it's the Shiite militias? it might be Iran? or even Syria? Maybe all the neighboring countries? or it might be the Iraqi government? what about the police and the national guards?it might be also the criminals gangs and thugs?
I think the most suitable answer is : ALL OF THE ABOVE. Each one of them is taking his part in destroying the country and having his interest . Iraq after the war was like a big cake and the criminals jumped on it , every one wants to take the biggest share , while the Iraqis were stepped on.
Sometimes I hear in the talk shows , TV news and many people talking together or with me that who ever do these things he isn't Iraqi , he couldn't be Iraqi , and that really makes me laugh and think how naive people can be. They are Iraqis and lived in Iraq all their lives , even if there are criminals from outside Iraq , they must have received some help from the inside.
and as I said in many posts before there are two types of Iraqis : Iraqis and real Iraqis ; I like to name the categories like this. The real Iraqis are the people that helped building Iraq , who loves their country , who spent their lives serving the country and the Iraqi flag , who helped their countrymen through all the ordeals , they are very kind and helpful , they are the majority of people I see everywhere ; in the streets and markets UNTILL the war . when the war started those people became rare day after day , some left Iraq because they can't handle things anymore , some got threatened , some got kidnapped and some of them were killed.

Iraq is depleted of real Iraqis , the noise of death , the ugly greed and the jungle laws kicked them out of Iraq.and from now on I'll refer to the other kind as fake Iraqis , because they are infamy to Iraq and Iraqis.

The first crime in the history was a brother who killed his brother , Cain killed Abel .
If the first crime was a brother who killed his brother why don't the Iraqis kill each other?

yes they are Iraqis , they have the Iraqi nationality , they were born in Iraq , they have lived in Iraq , but whatever they have done they are not real Iraqis , and will never be.
In the governmental clinic I work in , I noticed something and because of it I wrote this post , I noticed that the majority of the women and girls are wearing black , and the black is the sign of grief , they will continue to wear it for 40 days at least if it's a distant relative but if it's a close relative they will wear it for a year or more and maybe for the rest of their lives.
I just want to imagine with all these deaths in Iraq from 1980 till now , with these three fierce wars , and many mothers and wives who refuses to take out the black along with current deaths and blacks , if we asked them all to go out in the street and we looked from the sky , we will see a very big black area , this area is the heart of Iraq , it's the wounded heart of Iraq , it's the story of pain and struggle for the successive generations , it's the symphony of death and political ignorance .

In the elementary schools they taught us that the Iraqi flag and most of the Arabic countries have these colors because of this poem for the great Iraqi poet Saphy Al-Deen Al-Hili:
Our deeds are white , Our battles are black
Our dwellings are green , our swords are red
Can't see the weakness before we have the desire
Even if we saw the death in that desire

but I think the Iraqi flag now have none of those glorious meanings , the Red is for the river of the Iraqi blood that crosses Iraq from north to south and east to west abound with pain and sorrow , the White is for the thousands of shrouds used weekly in Iraq , the Black is for the uniform of the Iraqi mothers , wives and sisters , while the green which is a symbol of prosperity and that represents hope because it represents the glorious past and the history of Iraq , Iraq the first country in the world that legislated a law is now without any laws! controlled by thugs and its future is in the hands of a bunch of selfish ignorants.

118 comments:

field of dreams said...

LOI, I don't have words to respond to your post, except to say I agree with most of what you said.

I doubt that there's any consolation in this, but there are many of us out here who read your blog who long for the day that Iraq is peaceful and prosperous, when her people can return, when the children can play outside and go to school, when the mothers can go to the market and the fathers can go to work, without fear.

The Iraqis you speak of as not being "real" Iraqis, I agree. Muq and his ilk, and the Sunnis who call themselves insurgents but who really fight to regain the power they lost when Saddam was ousted - those are not Iraqis. Their only concern is power and greed.

al Qaeda - at this point, any Iraqis who are working with them are in it for the power and the crime, because this group has proven that nothing is sacred, and it's all about control.

I hope the real Iraqis, the IP, the IA, and the US troops can put an end to the wholesale murders and crimes these groups commit. I have hope that both the Sunni tribes and the Shiite tribes will follow the lead of the Anbar Salvation and run the thugs out of Iraq altogether.

That will be a start, and allow Iraq breathing space to install law and order and deal with the more common criminals.

Shirley said...

This is an excellent post. You state what I clearly believe to be true.

The US troops have killed many innocent Iraqis, but that number pales in comparison to the numbers killed by the low-life criminals. Field of dreams said it well, hope lies in all of the tribes coming together for the common purpose of driving the thugs out of Iraq.

Indigo said...

You have a real gift for oratory, Mohammed. Well said.

Hardy Haberman said...

Thank you Mohammed for your post. Please keep writing. The rest of the world needs to hear the voices of Iraq with your clarity and honesty.

Mohammed said...

field of dreams,
there is one conclusion that the Iraqis haven't known the smile of happiness long time ago , haven't felt safe for a long time , the Iraqis even outside Iraq are in a miserable condition.
what you said about the tribes joined together is completely true.
I wish this sectarian hatred comes to an end on the hands of the tribes and I wish the people don't follow some of the called "religious clerics" who wants nothing but the power and destruction of Iraq , whose loyalty is not for Iraq , I can't wait to see the day when all the Iraqis can see the truth and what is in their best interest.

Shirley,
thank you very much , it's the thugs and criminals that call them selves religious militias are the cause of most of the troubles to Iraq and the Iraqi people.

Indigo,
Thank you very much.

Hardy haberman,
thank you very much.

LJM said...

I hope this post gets picked up by the WAPO and then by all the other papers around the world.

bARABie said...

"the IP, the IA, and the US troops can put an end to the wholesale murders and crimes these groups commit."

Ok this is too much for me and you, Mohammed, AGREE with this BULLSHIT? GRRRRRRRRRRRR I just want to scream at the level of stupidity in humanity.

bARABie said...

"The US troops have killed many innocent Iraqis, but that number pales in comparison to the numbers killed by the low-life criminals."

WHAT? the yankee troops are not "low life criminals"? No wonder the yanks can slaughter wholesale Iraqis, Afghanistanis and israhellis can massacre Palestinians and Lebanese because the god damn world is full of ignorant fools.

bARABie said...

I really like your blog Mohammed but can't stand the people who comment on it. Take care and god willing Iraq will rise from the ashes to be the bastion of Arabia like it was under Saddam. Under Saddam, Iraq was the most advanced Muslim country not just in the Middle East but the entire Muslim world.

Mohammed said...

barabie,
the troops are not the ones responsible for this , they receive orders and they must do it , it's true some of them have killed Iraqis , but FEW of them not the majority.
I wish that Iraq can rise again and be peacfull.
But please Barabie don't attack the commenters because they are my guests , and i don't allow it.
every one has his own point of view , don't take yours as it's the right one , respect others opinion , don't be fanatic or racisit.

bARABie said...

"the troops are not the ones responsible for this , they receive orders and they must do it"

So they are robots huh? They don't have a conscience of their OWN? give me a break and second by me pointing out the OBVIOUS makes me racist AND fanatic, WHATEVER!
Btw tell Abeer Hamza Qasseem, Fallujah, Ramadi, Haifa St and the list is too long to list here but TELL THEM the troops were following orders, I am sure they will understand. Like the troops who massacred Iraqis in cold blood in Haditha and then planted weapons on the dead bodies to make it look like they were "insurgents". I want you to tell all these people that the troops raped them, killed them, tortured them because THEY WERE FOLLOWING ORDERS. Brilliant. I honestly thought you were smarter than your last comment. SHAME.

bARABie said...

Mohammed i want you to go to this girls gravesite (she was only 14) and tell her she was raped, her family killed in front of her and she was burned alive BECAUSE THEY WERE FOLLOWING ORDERS!
www.barabie.blogspot.com/2007/02/justification-of-abeer.html

bARABie said...

yalla, do it!

bARABie said...

And you were given the name of the Prophet.

Mohammed said...

hey hold on barabie,
I didn't say that they never did anything , I said some , and you mentioned also some , I know there is more than that , but it's still incident , that doesn't mean all of them are like that , you forget to mention Abu-Gharib , i'll remember you with this one.
but let me give you an example if a palestinian raped a girl and killed her family does this mean that all the palestinians are like this?
it's the same some soldiers are bad and criminals and some are not , you can't judge a whole nation or a whole army depending on incidents.
and the proof that the military is not satisfied with them and that it was a solitary act that they were put to justice.
I'm not defending anyone but I'm being rational , i wish you can understand that.
and by the way don't drift from the subject.it's not about the americans or their acts , it's about the struggle and sorrow of Iraqis.

LJM said...

I don't know where it says in the rules of the blogosphere that you can't read a blog, because you like it and then not read the comments. If I couldn't stand the commentors, that's what I'd do.

Andrew Tuccinardi said...

well Barable you seem like a person who believes only in what you say and can not be persuaded by the words of others, tell me barabie where do you live? is it in iraq? or are you sitting in a another country or Iran or eygpt or any other middle eastern country, or are you just a naive person who is screaming for attention and it finds it by pledging your alliance to Saddam, and why do you exactly support him> i mean i guess its nothing that he gassed the Kurds and started a personal war against the majority Shiites, but he what do i know? since you apparently know everything. I'm not exactly a fan of the war but i feel that since we get are heads to deep we have to at least finish the job and give the Iraqis a chance to resume normal lives. i noticed you blame the US for alot of problems, you think the soldiers are the only ones? soldiers go crazy in war and do crazy crap like that, not country can excuse for it, it happens, but the people who rape little girls and kill family's are miniorty and there is no fact out there that can prove it. you can state your opinion but you have no right to denounce someone else's opinion based of one little incident. and for your info Mohammed but just be a cover name since he can not reveal is real identity on the threat of intervention by one of the many militias causing trouble in iraq trying to silence him9and possible his prime Minister)

all the luck to you Mohammed

~Andrew Tuccinardi

Anonymous said...

Barbie, you sound like one of those who benefitted from Saddam's regime, whose own personal gain was worth turning a blind eye to the suffering of the many Iraqis who were brutalized under Saddam.

No one with an ounce of compassion for their fellow man could wish Saddam (or anyone like him) back into power. You want to talk about murder, rape and all the other horendous acts? Shoot, Saddam had more women raped in front of their husbands, men tortured in front of their wives and children, than we can even count. And the "insurgents" and "militias" who murder, rape, roast children on platters for their parents, bomb groups of children because they can kill one American... these folks are your heroes, eh?

The US made MANY mistakes. The US military has a very FEW bad seeds (when you consider there are over 300,000 in our military, most have been to Iraq). America has tried to rectify its mistakes. America has put the bad seeds on trial, and convicted most.

I don't see YOU calling for the punishment of Saddam's men who committed similar (or worse) crimes. Or for the punishment of the Sunni or Shiite gangsters who definitely have committed worse crimes.

Sane people call for justice, no matter who committed the crime - even if it's one of their own.

I don't know even one American that didn't call for the death penalty for Steven Green (the man who shot Abeer's family and burned her body after raping her).

Nutjob fantatics call for justice for others, but expect themselves and their own to be excused, no matter how heinous the crime.

Where's all your righteous indignation when it comes to crimes committed by Iraqis against Iraqis?

Your holy "resistance"? They intentionally exploded a bomb in the midst of numerous Iraqi children in an attempt to kill some Americans. Not one American was killed. But when the honorable "resistance" ran like cowards, it was an American who picked little Farah up into his arms, risking his life to try and save hers. And it was an American who cradled her and wept over her when she died in his arms.

Where was your beloved "resistance" then?

Don't paint all Americans as evil - especially while you're singing the praises of murderers and rapists like Saddam and some who call themselves the "resistance".

Don't mess with Mohammed. You don't have to agree with him, but respect that this is his blog, and it's one of the few places where everyone can read a very balanced view of what is going on - the bad, and the good.

Sorry for the rant, Mohammed. I'm going back into my cyber corner now.

bARABie said...

"it was a solitary act that they were put to justice."

Really?

"But now, those very same Marines that Murtha stood up in front of the world and declared to be out of control killers, are being exonerated and cleared of the charges against them."

http://bluestarchronicles.com/2007/08/10/more-haditha-marines-acquitted-and-john-murtha-still-for-sale/

As for Abeer's rapists and murderers, i have already given you a link.
To the rest who replied to me, i will reply when i have more time.
I am starting to wonder about you Mohammed.

LJM said...

Personally, barabie, I'd like to see all those responsible for war crimes in Iraq tried. That means all the way up the chain of command to include those in the White House. You can't extend what these people have done to the entire US military or to everyone in the US. Believe it or not, plenty of us opposed this war before it ever started. In fact the majority of Americans are against the war. It's really up to Iraqis to decide to stop killing each other, create some stability there and ask us to leave. There isn't a US soldier in Iraq who wouldn't be very happy to be going home. All Mohammed wants is to have a normal life again in Iraq. What about you barabie?

Anonymous said...

There isn't a US soldier in Iraq who wouldn't be very happy to be going home.

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=1075/
Incorrect. No doubt, A majority of soldiers there (justifiably)want to live normal lives again, but you exaggerate.

LJM said...

OK, I looked at the link you provided. We are talking about two different things. You've given me a link about troops being asked in Feb. of 2006, if the US should exit immediately from Iraq. Obviously, some of the soldiers polled want to see the "mission completed." At this point achieving a stable Iraq is completing the mission. That being the given, as I already stated, there isn't a soldier in Iraq who wouldn't want to be going home. As for a normal life for those soldiers, that's another topic entirely. Mohammed would like to have a normal life in Iraq. That's what I said.

bARABie said...

"ask us to leave. "

OMG!!!!

Did they ask you to invade?

bARABie said...

I am sure you will enjoy this song.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyoq_TPa1fU

bARABie said...

And i assure you, i WILL reply to the others in about an hour or two.

bARABie said...

lyrics to the song but watch the video and listen to the laughter by the rest of the marines.
"Hadji Girl
I was out in the sands of Iraq
And we were under attack
And I, well, I didn't know where to go.
And the first think I could see was
Everybody's favorite Burger King
So I threw open the door and I hit the floor.
Then suddenly to my surprise
I looked up and I saw her eyes
And I knew it was love at first sight.
And she said

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I can't understand what you're saying.
And she said
Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
Hadji girl I love you anyway.

Then she said that she wanted me to see.
She wanted me to meet her family
But I, well, I couldn't figure out how to say no.
Cause I don't speak Arabic.
So, she took me down an old dirt trail.
And she pulled up to a side shanty
And she threw open the door and I hit the floor.
Cause her brother and her father shouted

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
They pulled out their AKs so I could see
And they said
Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah

So I grabbed her little sister and pulled her in front of me.
As the bullets began to fly
The blood sprayed from between her eyes
And then I laughed maniacally
Then I hid behind the TV
And I locked and loaded my M-16
And I blew those little f***ers to eternity.
And I said

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad
Sherpa Sherpa Bak Allah
They should have known they were f***ing with a Marine

If you don't know Team America World Police, and you don't believe our Marines retain the right to humor then join the jihadis and their mouthpieces. If not then sing along with me, 'cuz I say:

Durka Durka Mohammed Jihad"

I bet all the apologists will come out of their corner now.

bARABie said...

andrew, first, where i live is of absolutely no relevance to seeing the truth. For all you know, i could live on Mars. As for your claim about the gassing, "Immediately after the attacks, the US Defence Intelligence Agency (USDIA) investigated and produced a "classified" report that showed clearly that it was Iranian gas that killed the Kurds, not Iraqi gas.

Iraq had never produced cyanide-based gas, or as it is known Cyanogens chloride, the "blood agent". Studies have shown that the chemical agent used exclusively by the Iranian army throughout the eight-year war, not the Iraqi army. Another report prepared by US Army War College’s Strategic Studies Institute revealed that, "[t]he great majority of the victims seen by reporters and other observers who attended the scene were blue in their extremities. That means that they were killed by a blood agent, probably either cyanogens chloride or hydrogen cyanide. Iraq never used and lacked any capacity to produce these chemicals. But the Iranians did deploy them. Therefore the Iranians [perpetrated this attack] killed the Kurds"."
http://uruknet.info/?p=8541

Re "personal war against the majority shites", "One exemplary case of malicious disinformation is the so-called Shiite uprising affair. These are my personal observations as an Iraqi citizen who was right there:

1. I maintain strongly that the "uprising" was no home-brew affair at all. It was an Iranian incursion that attempted to take advantage of the situation in the immediate aftermath of Iraq's retreat from Kuwait, and the disarray the country was in because of 40 days of heavy US bombing of its infrastructure."

http://www.uruknet.info/?s1=1&p=11200&s2=20 EXACTLY "what do you KNOW"?

You tell me i 'have no right to denounce" disinformation and straight out lies? Give me a break.
"His prime minister"???? More like yankee puppet..

bARABie said...

anon @ 6:32am i will deal with your comment later, literally sick in the stomach from these comments and having to EDUCATE the ignorant.

bARABie said...

"In fact, those who really feel that the disaster at Halabja has bearing on today might want to consider a different question: Why was Iran so keen on taking the town? A closer look may shed light on America's impetus to invade Iraq.

We are constantly reminded that Iraq has perhaps the world's largest reserves of oil. But in a regional and perhaps even geopolitical sense, it may be more important that Iraq has the most extensive river system in the Middle East. In addition to the Tigris and Euphrates, there are the Greater Zab and Lesser Zab rivers in the north of the country. Iraq was covered with irrigation works by the sixth century A.D., and was a granary for the region.

Before the Persian Gulf war, Iraq had built an impressive system of dams and river control projects, the largest being the Darbandikhan dam in the Kurdish area. And it was this dam the Iranians were aiming to take control of when they seized Halabja. In the 1990's there was much discussion over the construction of a so-called Peace Pipeline that would bring the waters of the Tigris and Euphrates south to the parched Gulf states and, by extension, Israel. No progress has been made on this, largely because of Iraqi intransigence. With Iraq in American hands, of course, all that could change."

http://uruknet.info/?p=880

bARABie said...

As for the drill gangs, check this site out. Admittedly by a jew but a good jew (i know very rare).

http://notinhisname.blogdrive.com/archive/cm-03_cy-2006_m-03_d-25_y-2006_o-0.html

Indigo said...

barabie, I think that you be more circumspect. You are an armchair insurgent, writing from the safety of a developed country; you are in no danger of contracting cholera, being shot dead for having the "wrong" name at a militia checkpoint or your dear ones blown up on a shopping errand for food.

It occurs to me that you are not what you pretend to be, that you are here to be an agent provocateur. Your post of September 26, 2007 2:36 AM refers to the Prophet without adding PBUH. A bit of a give-away, that.

Why did you reproduce all the words of that revolting American song? It is not news to those of us who follow Iraqi blogs and the criminal behaviour of troops in Iraq. What effect did you hope to have?

It is you who are not a good Muslim, I suspect. Or any Muslim at all.

bARABie said...

"Barbie, you sound like one of those who benefitted from Saddam's regime, whose own personal gain was worth turning a blind eye to the suffering of the many Iraqis who were brutalized under Saddam."

Haven't you ever been taught never to assume? Makes you look like a fool.


"No one with an ounce of compassion for their fellow man could wish Saddam (or anyone like him) back into power. You want to talk about murder, rape and all the other horendous acts? Shoot, Saddam had more women raped in front of their husbands, men tortured in front of their wives and children, than we can even count. And the "insurgents" and "militias" who murder, rape, roast children on platters for their parents, bomb groups of children because they can kill one American... these folks are your heroes, eh?"

Please provide links to your claims otherwise, shut up. "roast children on platters"? Really? This is news! Hang on, wasn't Saddam the darling of the yanks for YEARS? Did the yanks not provide Saddam with the weapons and intelligence for YEARS? And now you have the AUDACITY to tell me how bad he was, get an education, PLEASE! As for the "militias", please have a look at the link i provided ABOVE! (btw Mohammed, i am only answering these ignorant fools nicely for your sake, because you asked me nicely not to abuse your "guests", i would rather spit in their face for being so ignorant).


The US made MANY mistakes. The US military has a very FEW bad seeds (when you consider there are over 300,000 in our military, most have been to Iraq). America has tried to rectify its mistakes. America has put the bad seeds on trial, and convicted most.

tizzzzzzzz, "FEW"???? Really? Tell that to the victims of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Kandahar, Baghdad, Beirut, Gaza, Somalia, Kosovo and so on (my apologies for any city i have left out).
I don't see YOU calling for the punishment of Saddam's men who committed similar (or worse) crimes. Or for the punishment of the Sunni or Shiite gangsters who definitely have committed worse crimes.

So because "Saddam's men" (as you call them) supposedly "committed similar (or worse) crimes" that JUSTIFIES yankees CRIMES? Really? That makes yanks no better than "Saddam's men". Btw why did it take the yanks nearly 20 years after Halabja to take action? Give me a fxxxing break!

Sane people call for justice, no matter who committed the crime - even if it's one of their own.

I don't know even one American that didn't call for the death penalty for Steven Green (the man who shot Abeer's family and burned her body after raping her).

Nutjob fantatics call for justice for others, but expect themselves and their own to be excused, no matter how heinous the crime.

Where's all your righteous indignation when it comes to crimes committed by Iraqis against Iraqis?

Your holy "resistance"? They intentionally exploded a bomb in the midst of numerous Iraqi children in an attempt to kill some Americans. Not one American was killed. But when the honorable "resistance" ran like cowards, it was an American who picked little Farah up into his arms, risking his life to try and save hers. And it was an American who cradled her and wept over her when she died in his arms.

Do you know ANYTHING about international law? RESISTANCE is enshrined in the Geneva conventions and in every countries law. Every single human has the right to resist OCCUPATION, do you understand? HELLO! Wow a yank cradled a child, that makes ALL the difference, whatever!

Where was your beloved "resistance" then?

My beloved resistance is still kicking your ass, thankfully AND i hope they will be what brings the yanks to their knees.

Don't paint all Americans as evil - especially while you're singing the praises of murderers and rapists like Saddam and some who call themselves the "resistance".

Idiot, don't put words into my mouth. I have NEVER said ALL Americans are yanks or evil! But any yank in Iraq IS evil because they have no right to be there even under international law! Who the fxxx made you yanks GOD?

Don't mess with Mohammed. You don't have to agree with him, but respect that this is his blog, and it's one of the few places where everyone can read a very balanced view of what is going on - the bad, and the good.

As for messing with Mohammed, Mohammed is a big boy and i doubt my comments affect his life like you yanks have affected his life, not to mention that Mohammed has already told me what he doesn't like.
What i find interesting is Mohammed tells me not to attack his yankee "guests" but allows his yankee "guests" to attack me. No wonder Iraq is in the state it's in.

True to my word, i have responded.

bARABie said...

"your dear ones blown up "

Indigo, don't you fxxxing dare talk to me about my loved ones, you don't know what you are talking about. so shut the fxxx up. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

bARABie said...

Indigo, who said i was a practicing Muslim? I know i never have, so why do all you idiots ASS U ME?

bARABie said...

Btw anon, i just noticed you can't even spell my name correctly.

bARABie said...

Indigo, another question.
If he was the Prophet, why would one need to say peace on him? Wouldn't peace be upon him already, seeing he is the prophet?

bARABie said...

"I can't wait to see the day when all the Iraqis can see the truth and what is in their best interest."

Neither can i!

bARABie said...

"you are in no danger of contracting cholera, being shot dead for having the "wrong" name at a militia checkpoint or your dear ones blown up on a shopping errand for food."

Now that i have calmed down after your insulting remark i will ask you this.
Was anyone in danger of contracting cholera, being shot dead for having the wrong name or their dear ones blown up on a shopping errand BEFORE the yanks invaded?

neurotic_wife said...

Sheefeed il 7achee Mohammed???We have been saying, actually not saying, but screaming our heads off telling people of the miseries and the blood that has filled Iraq, and what do we get???Nothing, nothing or nas mithil il ba6ran or ba6rana above thats not saying anything useful...Malaina wallah malaina, but again, a great post as always...

Janice said...

Hey Barabie :)

bARABie said...

Hi Janice, nice to see you here amongst all these yanks.

Janice said...

Yeah there are a lot of them here

bARABie said...

There are Janice and ignorant as always. :(

Janice said...

Yes unfortunately :(

Ask your average American teenager to find Iraq on a map

Then wait and wait...........and wait

bARABie said...

LOL @ 2:36pm, thank you Janice, i needed a laugh. Honestly, thank you from the bottom of my heart. They have frustrated me with their ignorance and assumptions like you wouldn't believe, so to have some humor goes a long way.

Janice said...

Barabie ur welcome :)

bARABie said...

I have just realized something Janice, mohammed has had a go at me because his yankee friends have bought him with their donations. Typical sell out.

bARABie said...

So it's time for me to leave this sell out blog and find an Iraqi who is NOT a sell out. Fucking Arabs are such sell outs. TFOU!

Janice said...

Really? :(

Iraq's in the state its in because of the "generous" yanks

Indigo said...

barabie, you are a fraud.

Janice said...

Prove it

I won't hold my breath because you CAN'T

Jonathan said...

All of the problems in Iraq can be contributed to my president, George Bush. Him and his cronies lied to us (the American public), and started this whole deal for personal reasons. I can deal with Bush being blamed, but not the American people.

It was just a horrible coincident, having the worst president in history in office when 9/11 happened.

Anonymous said...

Mohammed,

I rarely (never) agree with Indigo, but in this case, she's right. I've seen the barbie/janice act on other blogs, including Zeyad's, and it's a big fraud. He/she/it/them are not acting in good faith, and will turn your very fine blog into a circus if you let it happen. Do not let him/her/them/it take advantage of your good nature and hospitality.

Bridget

Bridget

Mohammed said...

Hey Barabie wouldn't you quit it?it's not your chat room or your yahoo messenger to talk with your self (Janise) in it?this is an old trick.
you don't want to change your opinion , then don't.
people will not change their opinions with your words too.
You attacked them first and if you look back to what you and they have said , you will see that you are being really agressive.

BOTTOM LINE
Quit messing up with the enviroment of my blog and comments box , you have a blog go there and screw it up.
all you want to do is attacking the people in the blog including me.
So please pack your stuff and get back to your blog , leave us and don't come with a anon. name , OK , you are very intelligent and informative but as you have said we are ignorants and we don't want to be educated by your information.

Anonymous said...

"And the "insurgents" and "militias" who murder, rape, roast children on platters for their parents, bomb groups of children because they can kill one American... these folks are your heroes, eh?"

Please provide links to your claims otherwise, shut up. "roast children on platters"? Really? *****

http://www.michaelyon-online.com/wp/baqubah-update-05-july-2007.htm


***This is news! Hang on, wasn't Saddam the darling of the yanks for YEARS? Did the yanks not provide Saddam with the weapons and intelligence for YEARS? And now you have the AUDACITY to tell me how bad he was, get an education, PLEASE! ***

Hey, Barbie, YOU need to get the education. The US supported Saddam against Iran. Remember that Iran had taken Americans hostage. Saddam was merely a convenient tool against Iran.

Personally, I am against the fact that the US turned a blind eye to some of the things that Saddam did, and did not take action against other things Saddam did. And in some cases, our hands were tied, such as in the first Gulf War where there was a mandate that we could not take Saddam out by the UN.

On one hand you're angry that we interfered in Iraq's business, and on the other hand you are angry that we didn't interfere. Make up your mind.

***As for the "militias", please have a look at the link i provided ABOVE! ***

(yawn). the militias are the Shia equivalent of the Sunni insurgents. Both have killed the other, as well as their own, in a quest for power.

FACT: the US wanted to arrest Muqtada for murder, but the Iraqi gov't tied their hands.

***tizzzzzzzz, "FEW"???? Really? Tell that to the victims of Hiroshima, Nagasaki, Dresden, Kandahar, Baghdad, Beirut, Gaza, Somalia, Kosovo and so on (my apologies for any city i have left out).**

You list countries we've never even fought in. You include countries who attacked us first. You are intentionally misleading, and that pretty much negates your arguments.

***So because "Saddam's men" (as you call them) supposedly "committed similar (or worse) crimes" that JUSTIFIES yankees CRIMES? Really?***

I never said that. In fact, I said that SANE people call for justice no matter who the criminal, and the US has collectively called for the prosecution of criminals like Steven Green.

YOU are the one who justifies murder, rape, kidnapping, etc of Iraqis, all in the name of your glorious "resistance" fighters.

***Do you know ANYTHING about international law? RESISTANCE is enshrined in the Geneva conventions and in every countries law. Every single human has the right to resist OCCUPATION, do you understand?***

The question is do YOU understand?

I have no problem with TRUE resistance fighters. However, you should know (since you know everything) that the true resistance fighters are now working with the US because they realize we don't want to occupy, and they are working with us to get the militias and insurgents out of the picture so we can leave and Iraq can become entirely independent.

Those you cheer are the terrorists who call themselves "resistance" - the militias and those who follow al Qaeda in Iraq. These aren't "resistance". These are nutjobs out for a major power grab.

***My beloved resistance is still kicking your ass, thankfully AND i hope they will be what brings the yanks to their knees.***

Like I said, at this point, pretty much the only ones fighting the US are the militias and al Qaeda-like terrorists. And take note: we, along with the IA, IP and the citizens of Iraq, are kicking their butts.

Now, if you don't count the deaths of children as a military victory for your beloved "resistance", or the murders of innocents doing their grocery shopping or driving to work, the reality is that for every 1 US or Iraqi soldier or law enforcement official your guys kill (from behind the shelter of women's skirts, I might add), 10 or more militia or al Qaeda-like nuts bite the dust.

As more REAL Iraqis get fed up with the hate and murder of these groups, and get the courage to stand up to them, the less US and Iraqi fighters will be killed, and the more militia and al Qaeda-like barbarians will be killed.

***Idiot, don't put words into my mouth. I have NEVER said ALL Americans are yanks or evil! But any yank in Iraq IS evil because they have no right to be there even under international law! Who the fxxx made you yanks GOD?***

Actually, Barbie, Saddam broke every treaty with the US. Even without the UN blessing, the US had a right to enforce the treaties, and take action.

But that's entirely beside the point.

Every American in Iraq is not evil. There are a few bad guys in our ranks, and we're weeding them out. The rest of the guys (and women) over there are working 24/7 to help the Iraqis recover their country from the criminals that come from Iraq.

***As for messing with Mohammed, Mohammed is a big boy and i doubt my comments affect his life like you yanks have affected his life, not to mention that Mohammed has already told me what he doesn't like.***

I didn't say Mohammed couldn't handle it. I believe my point was that you are being RUDE.

***What i find interesting is Mohammed tells me not to attack his yankee "guests" but allows his yankee "guests" to attack me.***

Are you serious? No one attacked you. You did a lot of name calling and cursing. I don't recall anyone levying such at you.

Calling you out onto the carpet for your blatant BS and lack of manners is not "attacking", dear. It's calling a spade a "spade".

*** No wonder Iraq is in the state it's in.**

Iraq is in the state it's in because of people who are putting their own interests ahead of the interests of the Iraqi people. That, Barbie Doll, includes people like you.

Jonathan said...

Thank goodness! The idiocy coming from barabie/Janice was about to make my brain explode. I'm literally dumber for having read their posts.

You have good sense Mohammed, that much is obvious. I hope you continue to use it. And know that there are a lot of Americans that just want to try and help (even though it was our president that started this mess). Most of us just don't know what we can do at this point to help...

Take care!

Janice said...

Janice and Barabie are not the same person

In case anyone thinks otherwise

field of dreams said...

"Janice and Barabie are not the same person

In case anyone thinks otherwise"


LOL. Then why did "Janice" reply to the post calling "Barbie" a fraud?

Forgot which name you were logged in with, didn't you?

At best you're tag team that plays tags on blogs. But you really do look like the same person trying desperately to make it look like SOMEONE agrees with you.

Janice said...

Field of dreams

I beg to differ

Mohammed said...

I just want to say that there are millions of people who have rocks in their skulls instead of brains , those people are the ones who are recruited by AQ and Al-Mahdi army , these people are the cause of the disasters in Iraq because no one can convince them or even try to reach an agreement with them for the best of their country , each side should give concessions for the best of the country and it's people , they should be a bit more flexable and accept others opinions , that's the only way for a true reconciliation that can lead Iraq to peace.
I must make it clear that I'm not defending any one or taking any sides.

field of dreams said...

Mohammed -

A few questions that I hope you'll answer from your perspective.

I understand the initial allure of the militias and insurgency - you had the Shiites (militias) and Sunnis (insurgency) who both had a stake in the aftermath of the fall of Saddam.

The Sunnis were losing their favored status, and even if they had friends and family who were Shiite, they feared the potential "revenge" some Shiites might take on them for all their years of oppression, and the bottom line is there are far more Shiites than Sunni.

America's invasion made it possible for any Shiites who were inclined to make up for lost time to do so, so for protection - or maybe for regaining power in some cases - the Sunnis banded together to force America out and possibly regain their power through other means that they couldn't do with America there. And some Sunnis simply didn't want America there - "OK, you took Saddam out, now let us handle it."

The Shiites, long oppressed by Saddam, saw this as their chance to have a real voice in Iraq. Some are extremist, like Muq, and want ultimate power, while others just want an equal voice.

Muq saw this as his chance for fame and fortune, and made his militias to fight the Americans - who he knew wouldn't stand for his power play.

When some of the more extremist Sunni groups attacked Shiites, Muq took advantage of it, and started "protecting" Shiites from the Sunnis, and no doubt many Shiites appreciated the protection, even if it was more than likely given as a means of control and power by Muq.

This is how I see the way that the extremists gained power and a following in a country that really lacked any major extremist inclination prior to that.

Now, my questions:

We have Anbar, where the Sunnis have started working with US forces to clear al Qaeda out, and from what I *hear*, they ultimately want to live under a central government that supports their interests (all gov'ts should support the interests of all their people), and under the rule of law. Some are friends of the US, some still aren't thrilled with the US, but they realize we aren't there to make Iraq the 51st state.

We have other Sunni areas that are following the Anbar lead, as well as Shiite tribes that are also making the move to follow the Anbar lead.

From your perspective, do you think the majority of Iraqis are sick of the militias and insurgents and all the death, kidnapping, destruction, to the point of being willing to walk away from them?

Do you think most Iraqis have had enough of the religous faction posturing, and are ready for a truly secular government?

I believe most Iraqis are against the militias and insurgency, but at this point, I think they are also very afraid of them, because they've seen the horror. So what began as "protection" has turned into "control".

We know that most Sunnis are ready to do just about anything to get rid of al Qaeda.

Do YOU think there are enough Shiites (and Sunnis) willing to stand up to the militias and Muq if they have the backing of the troops?

Or do you think the majority in the Shiite strongholds controled by Muq are truly loyal to him?

Laura said...

This blog is a really powerful piece of writing - very poetic.

LJM said...

Maliki said today that Iraq is a long way off from being stable. Don't look for the Iraqi government to ask the US military to leave anytime soon. If they did, we'd have to go. Under international law, unless a country is stable and able to defend themselves, the invading military can't leave. So there you have it.

Indigo said...

Sorry, ljm, I can't let that go by. Since when has the US cared a jot about international law? Or Iraqi law, for that matter?

Regime-change is illegal under international law. Not protecting the civilian population is against international law.

International humanitarian law is part of international law; and international humanitarian law prohibits all means and methods of warfare that:

* fail to discriminate between those taking part in the fighting and those, such as civilians, who are not, the purpose being to protect the civilian population, individual civilians and civilian property;

* cause superfluous injury or unnecessary suffering (think Abu Ghraib);

* cause severe or long-term damage to the environment (remember the depleted uranium weapons and phosphorus bombs used by the US military in Fallujah).

International human rights law prohibits the arbitrary deprivation of life under any circumstances (think of the hundreds of known incidents of US military shooting civilian Iraqis on sight and asking questions afterwards).

Maliki said stop building concrete barriers; the US occupiers carried right on building those barriers. Maliki said Blackwater's licence was withdrawn (in fact, it appears to have lapsed in 2005) and they must leave the country, except those responsible for the recent killing in cold blood who must stay and be tried for murder. Guess what, Blackwater carry as as usual.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for your blog. I imagine it takes real courage to write about what is happening in Iraq. I've been reading them for a while (and have never commented because there are so many ugly exchanges), but I just wanted you to know that your descriptions of what life has become for those Iraqis still in Iraq are important to remind us all what the true cost of war is--in lives lost, either through death or through their worlds being irrevocably changed. And it reminds those of us in safer places that although the international media stops reporting on the day-to-day, it continues for those inside.

Also, it has been a while since I was on this blog, and I was sorry to read that you lost your cat.

bARABie said...

field of idiocy have some decency, you want to attack me, go right ahead but leave Janice alone. She has done nothing to you. As for your stupid assumption mohameeeed about Janice and I being one, you just prove my point even more about the level of stupidity on this blog.

field of dreams said...

"field of idiocy have some decency, you want to attack me, go right ahead but leave Janice alone."

You're cracking me up, Barbie. You take the cake for being an ankle biter, and spewing hate, and then accuse everyone of attacking you and your other ID. You haven't been attacked once. Grow up.

Mohammed's blog is way cool, and he is an honorable man. That you would act like such a... brat... is disrespectful and childish, at best.

I think Mohammed ought to get one of those word verification things that you loathe so much. Not that it would stop your abuse, but it might slow you down:)

LJM said...

indigo, how much is a jot?

LJM said...

Sec. Gates has just issued a memorandum that brings the private contractors under the domain of the military commanders under the UCMJ while they are in Iraq. That means the commanders can apprehend them. They aren't above the law anymore. There was a big article in the Washington Post yesterday about how much the US military pretty much despises these private contractors. Maliki is also looking at how to bring them under Iraqi law, from what I've read.

Indigo said...

Meanwhile,

Blackwater ... still enjoys an unusually close relationship with the Bush administration, and with the State Department and Pentagon in particular. It has received government contracts worth more than $1 billion since 2002, with most coming under the Bureau of Diplomatic Security, according to the independent budget monitoring group OMB Watch. ... Just in recent weeks, Blackwater has also been awarded another large State Department contract to provide helicopter services in Iraq.

That would be for the Saigon-moment, I guess, from a roof in the Green Zone.

Mohammed said...

Field of dremas,

If i want to answer your questions thoroughly I'll need many post to answer them because they need so much talking but i'll try to make it clear and simple.
At Saddam's time it didn't count whether you were shiite or Sunni because when you interfere in politics you will put your self in big troubles , so the shiites are not that oppressed , Saddam was a tyrant not sectarian , although I think his times were much much better than now.
and I believe the Shiites count more than the Sunnis but not 20% more as they say , i believe the percentage is less although I don't have reliable analytics.
about the Sunnis who wishes the US to leave , I don't think they want this to regain control , because it is already lost , but they simply don't want their country to be occupied , as I wanted before the war , I didn't want my country to be invaded but the invasion occurred so we need to figure a way out of this mess , and that means the US should stay untill they fix the situation .but don't you think it's a bit injustice to give complete control to one side and abandon the other?it's not a wise thing to do because it's clear they will rise up.
About Muq. you are almost right , but you forgot that he is sectarian from the beginning and the sunnis didn't attack the Shittes , it was AQ who attacked them and there is a big difference between the two , don't you think?

yes I believe the majority of REAL Iraqis are sick of them and just want to live normally and get back to their home (if they are outside Iraq) except for the ones who gets big cash or they have their interest in what's going on , they are criminals anyway , what ever they call them selves they are criminals who ever kills a civilian is a criminal no matter which side he belongs to, don't you think?
Muq. Shiites are very loyal to him that's my opinion because the majority who belongs to his army are just ex-convicts,thugs and criminals , it's about power and money , it's never about religion , that's my opinion.
A very big issue that most don't realize is that most of the troubles in the country and the sectarian violence is caused by Iran , they have a very strong influence in Iraq and they are behind most of the sectarian issues.

bARABie said...

"Saddam was a tyrant "

Do you blame him with the level of stupidity or treachery exhibited by Iraqis?
Btw did you thank Saddam Hussein (RIP) for your education? Did you thank him for eradicating illiteracy from Iraq?
He should not have been so kind to fools.

bARABie said...

Do you know what the literacy rate amongst indigenous saudi Arabians was in 1990? 5%, That is 5% of saudis could read and write whereas the Iraqis, well... Pity the man loved being an Iraqi.

bARABie said...

Transcript Reveals Impeachable Offenses by Bush Re: Iraq War

El Pais published a transcript (reprinted at this link) of the conversation between George W. Bush, Jose Maria Aznar of Spain, and Condoleeza Rice held at Crawford before the Iraq War. Bush is typically bullheaded, impatient, conspiratorial, bullying, arrogant, ill-informed and way over-optimistic. The transcript shows the true colors of the man-- a sort of thuggish, ignorant Mafia don-- who destroyed the United States and destroyed Iraq.

At one point Aznar prophetically says, "The thing that worries me is your optimism."

The transcript, it seems to me, provides a whole rack of smoking guns that could be a basis for impeaching George W. Bush. The transcript shows that Bush consciously intended to go to war without a United Nations Security Council resolution. The United Nations Charter, to which the United States is a treaty signatory (so that it has the force of American law), forbids any nation to launch an aggressive war on another country. The only two legal mechanisms for war are either that it came in response to a direct attack or that the attacker gained a UNSC authorization. The transcript shows Bush actively plotting to sidestep the UNSC if he could not, gangster-like, threaten its members into compliance.

The second grounds for impeachment is that Bush rejected out of hand a deal brokered by the Egyptians whereby Saddam Hussein would leave the country with a billion dollars and some documents about his WMD program. Reuters reports:


'The Egyptians are speaking to Saddam Hussein. It seems he's indicated he would be prepared to go into exile if he's allowed to take $1 billion and all the information he wants about weapons of mass destruction," Bush was quoted as saying at the meeting one month before the U.S.-led invasion.'



The transcript in Spanish then says (my translation):


'Aznar: Is it certain that any possibility exists that Saddam Hussein will go into exile?

Bush: The possibility exists, including that he will be assassinated.

Aznar: Exile with a guarantee?

Bush: No guarantee! He is a thug, a terrorist, a war criminal.



Bush goes on to say, "Saddam won't change and he'll keep on playing games. The time has come to get rid of him. That's the way it is. We'll be in Baghdad by the end of March."

In other words, Bush could have sent Saddam off to exile in Saudi Arabia and avoided the whole war, but refused to do so because of the family vendetta between the Bushes and the Tikritis. Nearly 4,000 US soldiers have died and thousands have been wounded because Bush would not take the deal Saddam offered him. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis are dead, and millions displaced.

Going to war unnecessarily is an impeachable offense.

The whole immense catastrophe could have been avoided.

There is more evidence of thuggery in the transcript:

Excerpts courtesy Harper's:


' Bush to American Allies: support war or starve

[Condoleezza Rice has just described the diplomatic situation to Bush and Aznar, explaining that Iraq is continuing to insist that it has no weapons of mass destruction.]

Bush: This is like Chinese water torture. We have to put an end to it.

Aznar: I agree, but it would be best to have as much support as possible. Have a little patience.

Bush: My patience has ended. I’m not thinking of waiting beyond mid-March.

Aznar: I’m not asking that you have endless patience. Simply that everything is done to [have maximum international support].

Bush: Countries like Mexico, Chile, Angola, and Cameroon should know that what’s at stake is the security of the United States . . . [Chilean President Ricardo] Lagos should know that the Free Trade Accord with Chile is awaiting Senate confirmation and a negative attitude about this could put ratification in danger. Angola is receiving Millennium Account funds [to help alleviate poverty] and that could be jeopardized also if he’s not supportive…

Aznar: Tony [Blair] wants to wait until March 14.

Bush: I prefer the 10th. This is like a good cop, bad cop routine. I don’t care if I’m the bad cop and he’s the good cop.


Bush on Iraq: the future is bright

“We’re developing a very strong package of humanitarian aid. We can win [the war] without much destruction. We’re planning for a post-Saddam Iraq and believe there is a strong base to build a better future. Iraq has a good bureaucracy and relatively string civil society.”

Bush on French President Chirac: Mister Arab

“Chirac knows perfectly well the reality. His intelligence services have explained. The Arab countries are sending Chirac a clear message: Saddam Hussein must go. The problem is that Chirac thinks he’s Mister Arab and is making life impossible.” '



Reuters has more:


' In case the war endangered energy supplies, "the Saudis would help us and put all the oil necessary into the market," said Bush, who considered Europeans to be complacent about Saddam.

"Maybe it's because he's dark-skinned, far away and Muslim, lots of Europeans think everything's okay with him," he said. . . '



He was accusing the Europeans of racism! He!

field of dreams said...

"At Saddam's time it didn't count whether you were shiite or Sunni because when you interfere in politics you will put your self in big troubles"

Yes, I've heard that anyone who spoke out against him was terrorized, but most of the mass atrocities he committed were against the Shiites and Kurds - maybe because they opposed him much more openly?

"I believe the Shiites count more than the Sunnis but not 20% more as they say , i believe the percentage is less although I don't have reliable analytics."

I've thought it odd that there were so many Shiites in a country that the Sunnis were the favored.

The only way to tell, truly, is to make sure only Iraqi citizens vote, and for every Sunni to get out there and cast their ballot. That's the way to tell if the majority is not so much a majority, and to get that secular gov't in.

"about the Sunnis who wishes the US to leave , I don't think they want this to regain control , because it is already lost , but they simply don't want their country to be occupied"

That's reasonable, and I can't say I blame them.

Occupation was never America's intention. I remember reading somewhere where they had to claim occupation in order to get certain sanctions dropped after the fall of Saddam. I wish some could see that if we really wanted to occupy, we'd have just installed Americans in the gov't, and been done with it.

I'd wager that most of the US casualties are more a result of us NOT wanting to occupy or rule with an iron fist (believing Iraqis already lived that way too long), because militarily, IF we're using all out force, and all the weapons at our disposal, there's no one who can beat us on the ground or in the air.

Also, with all that's been spent on the war, if the war was a land grab, the truth is we could have purchased Iraq's oil fields for less.

there was a lot of flawed intel that the US received - some from its own intel orgs, some from other countries - I don't think it helped that up until right before the war, Saddam pranced around bragging about whose ass he could kick, with thinly veiled comments about his weapons.

We screwed up on the WMDs, no question about that. But was getting Saddam out worth the mess? Right now, no. If Iraq could be stabilized, though, I suspect most would say "yes".


" but the invasion occurred so we need to figure a way out of this mess , and that means the US should stay untill they fix the situation ."

I absolutely agree. Whether the invasion was right or wrong is not the most important argument right now. Right now, the US has a responsibility to help Iraq get out from under the militias and insurgencies and AQ that are tearing the country apart and shredding society.

"but don't you think it's a bit injustice to give complete control to one side and abandon the other?"

This goes back to the mistakes the US made early on, not understanding Iraq and her people fully. I don't know why Bremer ever OK'd anything in the gov't that was sectarian. I personally think its bunk that the top positions can only be held by certain religious sects. That's insane, and certainly not how any successful gov't that serves all its people is run.

YOU, as an Iraqi, should be able to vote for the top positions, for the candidate that you think is proper. Not the party, but the individual (because not all individuals in all parties are created equal).

I can see why Maliki is concerned about giving too many weapons to Sunnis and training them - on the other hand, we're not giving them weapons (they already have enough for an army), and they are working (for now) much harder to be part of the central gov't than the militias.

"it's not a wise thing to do because it's clear they will rise up."

Any group that is oppressed will eventually rise up, yes.

So there's another reason for a truly secular gov't.

"About Muq. you are almost right , but you forgot that he is sectarian from the beginning"

Ah, right. But he saw the aftermath of the fall of Saddam as a means for his personal glory (he couldn't get it any other way, because prior to that, he was the younger son, who wore tight jeans, played video games, and couldn't pass his religious courses)

I'm sorry. I can't stand this guy. He is obnoxious, runs to Iran every time it looks like he could be held accountable, has bad teeth (no excuse - too many dentists in Iraq, and his family had lots of money), and generally looks and sounds evil.

"and the sunnis didn't attack the Shittes , it was AQ who attacked them and there is a big difference between the two , don't you think?"

Yes. But there were those Sunnis who welcomed AQ into the fold thinking that AQ was America's enemy, and therefore their friend. There are SOME Sunnis who became part of AQ, or at least took part in their carnage against Shiites.

Those who were really "resistance" to occupation have seen what AQ is like, and have thrown their lot in with the US to kick them out and start getting Iraq under control and rebuilt.

Those who are sectarian (and evil) still have their lot cast with AQ and are still attacking innocent Iraqis of every religion, and trying to overtake the local gov'ts, in order to get at the fed gov't.


"yes I believe the majority of REAL Iraqis are sick of them and just want to live normally and get back to their home (if they are outside Iraq)"

I pray you are right. It's Iraq's only hope of getting out of the control of the militias and AQ.

"except for the ones who gets big cash or they have their interest in what's going on , they are criminals anyway , what ever they call them selves they are criminals who ever kills a civilian is a criminal no matter which side he belongs to, don't you think?"

AGREED.

I remember when, right before the war, and knowing that it was pretty much inevitable, Saddam released pretty much every low life in Iraq from prison - calling it amnesty, and trying to make it look like it was an act of generosity.

It was many of the criminals he released who started the looting and kidnappings and murders in the early days, and who joined forces with Muq and AQ.

The ONLY good thing you could say about Saddam was that he controlled the country, and the common criminals (those who didn't work under him) were locked up. Unfortunately, though, he also locked up a lot of good people just because he saw them as a threat to his power (real or imagined threat).

"Muq. Shiites are very loyal to him that's my opinion because the majority who belongs to his army are just ex-convicts,thugs and criminals "

But is everyone in Sadr City a crimial? Or are most of them poor Iraqis who welcome his protection at first, and are now kind of stuck under his power, for fear of becoming the next victim of his drills or other torture?

"A very big issue that most don't realize is that most of the troubles in the country and the sectarian violence is caused by Iran , they have a very strong influence in Iraq and they are behind most of the sectarian issues."

See, I agree with you here, too. AQ will be seen by most Iraqis as a foreign group with evil intentions for Iraq.

Muq is in Iran's pocket, hook, line and sinker. Iran is giving the militias weapons and training. And Iran is sending some of their own into Iraq under false pretenses, to help the militias.

It's sooo obvious Iran intends to make Iraq a Shiite state, run by Ayatollahs. God help the Iraqis if they succeed!

Iran wants the US out now because they know that if we stay and stabilize Iraq, and stay until Iraq's army is capable of fully defending Iraq, and Iraq and the US become allies, Iran's chance to take over Iraq is lost.

Thanks for your take on all of the above.

bARABie said...

This is what the yanks and safavids have wanted all along...

"Sources in Baghdad

“The situation is terrible!” said the voice on the telephone, “Since last night, there is fighting in the streets. Here, in my neighborhood, Adhamiya.” The voice is a good friend of mine from Baghdad. His words brought an uncomfortable feeling to the pit of my stomach as I realized that I’m still not used to the idea of having friends in a war zone. “Who’s fighting? Militias? Americans?” I asked. “Shia against Sunni”, he replied, “Shia attacked a Sunni mosque.” When I asked how it had come to that, he said: “Well, this is what the US and Iran have been trying to achieve all the time.” Suddenly, the line was cut and I could only hope the disconnect was a technical problem in the network, which is not an unusual event in occupied Iraq. "

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=2690

bARABie said...

"It’s true that the bombing at the Al-Askariya mosque in Samarra on February 22 triggered a wave of sectarian violence, in spite of repeated calls from several clerics and politicians to preserve calm. Although nobody claimed the attack, authorities immediately held Sunni extremists accountable. Western media never really paid attention to the circumstances under which the assault took place and its professional character. According to the Iraqi Minister of Construction, it must have taken at least four hours to drill the holes in the pillars where the explosives were planted.[1] And the whole operation happened during the nightly curfew, with Iraqi and American security forces patrolling the streets.[2] "

same link as above.

bARABie said...

""In view of this Administration's tendency for covert or secret operations, there is no assurance that these funds were not misused for illegal or unauthorized activities," stated Kucinich. "The Administration, the Department of Defense, and Coalition Provisional Authority must be held directly responsible for this staggering lack of accountability of $9 billion. If ever there was a reason for a grand jury to start asking questions of high ranking federal government officials, this is it."

http://www.commondreams.org/news2005/0131-11.htm

field of dreams said...

And Barbie Doll is at it again.

Barbie, you should know that Saddam broke every treaty he had with the US (not to mention every UN resolution). It was never a secret that if the UN would not back the US up, the US would go anyway.

the US tried to get the UN backing, but those who read the news know that Russia and France's leaders were in Saddam's pocket big time, and the head of the UN and many of its members were screwing the oil for food program and lining their own pockets.

Of course they didn't want Saddam out of power - it was too damned profitable!

No one in their right mind would have OK'd Saddam's exile with 1BILLION dollars and all WMD files. Are you nuts?

Without appropriate links, and footnotes, your quotes mean nothing. They can be taken out of context, the words changed, etc. Expecting us to believe that private meetings were recorded and transcribed for magazines and news organizations is a stretch.

Your support of Saddam is like rubbing salt in the wound of every Iraqi who lost a family member to his brutality, or experienced his torture first hand.

And no, Bush cannot be impeached for going to war with Iraq. That would require a vote by the house and senate, who also voted to go to war with Iraq. See, in the US, Bush can't just go to war - he needs the support of congress, and therefore, he cannot be impeached for it.

The ONLY way congress could impeach him is to find that HE personally planted false evidence against Saddam, that was used as a reason to go to war. They've looked for that - can't find it. Most of the flawed evidence that was used came from other countries or from US offices that Bush had no control over.

Instead of being nasty and spreading your uninformed BS and worshipping a tyrant, why don't you go post in your own blog? Maybe someone will read it and agree with you.

Mohammed said...

Barabie ,
I think I was clear in what did I say to you! didn't I.
I think I was a bit polite with you so you didn't understand.
Give us the joy and happiness of your disapearance from the comments box and the blog , please don't come back here again , I can't be ruder than this , so please understand , have some respect , OK!
and this is my last answer to your comments,
If Saddam wasn't a tyrant why did he do this to my distant relative? who was the under secretary of the health ministry and who was a Sunni , and who only disagreed with Saddam on a heath issue because he was a doctor and he told him that his idea might not be good , do you know what he did to him????
he undressed him and painted him with meat sauce and set him into the yard where there are 10 dogs who hadn't eaten for two days! he was eaten alive by dogs , then Saddam impound all his properties and killed his son , that was in the 80's , but he is not a tyrant!
I'm not hating him for that , I'm hating him for one thing and only one thing that is he allowed the Arabs (jordanians , Syrians , Egyptians.....etc) to study in the cheapest prices and gave them free homes to live in and he gave orders to treat them better than the rest of the Iraqis , and I don't need to say what these countries do to the Iraqis who wishes to study in those countries , he let every Arab in and treated them like kings specially the Jordanians , and look what they are doing to iraqis and among them myself , if you don't know about that read my post "Jail" (but don't comment in it , please) , I'm angry because he gave them electricity and oil for free and they do this to iraqis who are in an ordeal.I hate him only for that , it's true Saddam's times were much much better than now , but this doesn't mean he wasn't a tyrant or a dectator.
in 50's saddam was nothing at that time so you don't have to thank Saddam that the Iraqi people are educated!Iraq is great since the begining of the time , Iraq is great and will remain great what ever happens to his REAL IRAQIS , they will stay REAL Iraqis.
Saddam had no role in that , is that clear , Real Iraqis are very good and kind people and Saddam had no role in it.
Iraq wasn't a desert before him so I should thank him , and by the way the college I studied in was built at the Royal times , and it was free since that time , I wish you know more about Iraq and the Iraqis before you start talking.

Do I need to remind you that I don't want to read your answer?
Do I need to remind you are not welcome to comment.
please keep that in your mind.

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field of dreams said...

Barbie, you're a nutjob.

Kucinich is a joke in the US, and rambles on and on with little to nothing to back him up, in an attempt to get press, for his quest to be President (and that will never happen, because 99% of the US thinks he's a joke)

If you want to quote American politicians to back up your junk, then at least pick a few that are respected for their political savvy or their foriegn relations experience!

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Mohammed said...

and keep in mind that I was really angry when they hanged him , I even cried not because he is a very good man , but because he was my presedent for almost 20 years and he doesn't respect to be killed like that , and specially in that day.
and there was a lot of injustice and lies in the case he was sentenced , any presedent who was going to be assasinated would do what he did , there were a lot of lies and overexaguration in that court.
he was killed in a sectarian way.

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field of dreams said...

Mohammed, I don't know if you ever posted about your uncle before - I've read many, many of your posts, but don't remember that one.

Anyway, I'm so very sorry that that happened to your uncle. That is one of the worst things I've heard.

I cannot imagine what it takes for someone to become so heartless. Yeah, yeah, he had a rough childhood, but many have had rough childhoods and come out of it with a heart, knowing what it's like to be hurt and not wanting to spread the hurt to others.

Saddam actually had a lot of good ideas, but he negated any good he did with all the evil things he did.

What was it with him and the free homes and oil and educations for those of other Arab countries? Was it a way that he thought he could gain control of them? Or did he think all the freebies would make them his allies if ever he was attacked? Or...?

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don't say sorry and don't appologize , I was so clear that I don't want your comments here , from now on , all your comments will be deleted , Janice comments will be deleted also.
have some dignity.

Mohammed said...

Field of dreams,
thank you for your compassion but he wasn't my uncle , he was a distant relative and I was a kid at that time and I even don't remember him but his story is very famous because he was a very good and noble man.
I didn't post about that , and I agree with you that he had many good ideas and achivments but this brutality was a very bad thing .
and about the free things , he did that because of the Arabic dream and that dream states that all the Arab land should be one country because they have the same language the same religion , the same heritage ...etc. this was his main concern , they teached us about this dream all our studying years , it was one of his principles and the Baath's party.
he did that only for that reason , not to have alliances , and look how they return the favor!

field of dreams said...

Mohammed,

I have loathed Saddam since I was old enough to understand what he was about. I prayed that after the first Gulf War, we could take him out - but we couldn't.

I cheered when he was forced out of power.

And, like you, I cried when he was hanged - which surprised me!

I guess what made me sad was that he was a very old man on that day, and rather than being allowed to make his peace with his Maker (if he had any hope of it), someone allowed those creeps into the room to taunt him in his final moments.

The current gov't of Iraq was supposed to be BETTER than Saddam! And every man deserves the opportunity to ask forgiveness for his sins before being executed.

For once, I actually thought Saddam handled himself very well. At that moment, he maintained his dignity, and the taunters simply looked like bullies.

Oh, wait, they were chanting "Muq! Muq!" Of course they are bullies!

I don't think many can dispute that he deserved the ultimate punishment. He killed too many people over the years for no reason except control and power. But the timing and circumstances could have been a lot better.

Kmilo said...

Sometimes is very depressive be part of the human kind.

The weakness of the good ones, and the power of the evils, for years and years killing us for stupid things, hitting us for unnecessary things, choking our owns throats for a little amount of power

Sometimes I just feel shame of be one of this stupid human beings.

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Jonathan said...

Barbie, why don't you and Janice come to America and talk shit about "yanks"? Freaking pansy, hiding behind a computer.

I feel sorry for your mother and eight dads.

field of dreams said...

Mohammed, my last post to Barbie on your blog, I promise. It's just that I have no other way of responding to her because she's a coward and won't allow comments on her blog!

Barbie, you potty mouth. You loud, obnoxious, petty, mean spirited terrorist, militia lover, al Qaeda wannabe. You are a disgrace to Arabs. Go get some therapy - your multiple personality syndrome is out of control, and your hatred is pathetic.

In the spirit of American kindness (and my snarky sense of humor) I now turn your curse back on you by deeming that I care about YOU! May you be taken out - of the blogosphere (ah, you thought I'd wish death upon you? Unlike you, we yanks are better than that. I'll just be happy if you STFU)

Love,
Field of Dreams
(who challenges Barbie Doll to come to her blog and debate like an intellectual instead of foul mouthed trailer trash)

Mohammed said...

please guys , just ignore Barabie , don't make her feel important by replying to her.

field of dreams said...

Jonathan, Barbie is probably in America or in Australia (that's where her alter ego Janice claims she's from)

Did you notice how "Janice" responded to your post to "Barbie"? (that's the 2nd time she's done that!)

she can't keep track of her personalities.

Indigo said...

BAGHDAD, 26 September 2007 (IRIN) - The Iraqi government will impose travel restrictions in the country if more cases of cholera are confirmed after a warning by the World Health Organization (WHO) that the disease was spreading in Iraq.

"If we verify more cases of cholera in different areas of Iraq, we will impose travel restrictions to prevent a more serious outbreak. We have already been restricting the movement of food between provinces," said Lt-Col Seif Abdel-Karim, a senior official in the Ministry of Interior.


there is still a severe shortage of chlorination products and replenishment is urgently needed to enable water supplies to be treated to render them safe for human consumption. Provision of safe water is the highest priority in controlling an outbreak of cholera. ... The virulent disease is mainly transmitted through contaminated water and food. Most people infected with cholera do not develop any symptoms but the pathogens can stay in their faeces for up to two weeks, increasing the possibility of spreading of the disease.

First time I've heard that people who have contracted cholera don't develop any symptoms.

Indigo said...

barabie, you need to see a psychiatrist.

Anonymous said...

...Just listen to Mohammad, indigo. Some people never learn, and being online only worsens this effect.

Indigo said...

Run time: 07:31
Welcome to Ruweishid
Posted on YouTube: September 27, 2007
By YouTube Member: AliveInBaghdad
Views on YouTube: 121

Refugees describe the horrific conditions at a Jordanian refugee camp.

Why is the Senate being asked to release billions more dollars for America's military adventures in Iraq - and exactly zip to help neighbouring countries feed and house millions of refugees displaced by the violence that the US cannot control?

Cross-posted to Healing Iraq.

(Alive in Baghdad hopes to add another video about Baghdad soon.)

joybringer said...

Thank you for expressing so simply how millions around the world feel. It takes not one but a consortium of many to rain havoc on a country or a people.

Unfortunately, until more people want peace and stand up for it, it is not likely to be seen in our lifetime or that of our children or children's children. This has been the world for centuries.

What I would like to see is a comprehensive roundup of all the genocide or other type of human disasters in the world today and past and each country comes to the altar of forgiveness. In this way it would be my hope we can have a clean slate and start over again.

Is this Utopia thinking, well, yes, but I can still hope that throughout the world we can have more people who want peace than money, power, greed and all things bad for humanity. It is not the problem of one, but unfortunately, most of the countries in the world today have had their debaucheries.

Through your writing you can increase awareness and share perspectives. Through mine I can do the same. Maybe bloggers can be a catalyst for peace and perspective. Thank you again for yours.

perry1961 said...

I hope everyone that feels like yourself pays a visit to his sheik and asks him to join the Awakening Movement Mohammed. The movement appears to be for real,and seems to want to unite Iraq in a secular way across all sects. Both Sunni and Shia tribes have joined forces to bring security in Diyala and south of Baghdad,in and around the Sunni triangle.

Andrew Tuccinardi said...

Mohammed have you ever heard of Daler Mehndi? he is a Indian pop star and his songs are always good to me, I think he might have some songs that you might like. by the way I'm just posting this randomly but I think you might like him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGlMWqbnuU4

Mark said...

Hi Mohammed, my man!

Where will it end?

This war is the cause of countless mental health issues and I see you've caught a couple of fine fish in your blog's net and they've been treating us all to some fascinating Middle East policy theory and some classic bowl-splattering diarrhetic venom.

I see there are those who think Saddam was given a bum rap. This isn't surprising. For instance, women who are abused by their husbands often stay with them because the certainty of years of beatings and humiliation is preferable to the terror of being alone and "unloved" for even one day. And when he smiles that smile, you think you may have a few cherished moments of "peace," that he really does love you after all....

Maoists still love Mao and think he got a bum rap even though he was responsible for 77,000,000 deaths, or maybe they all died of old age; Stalin-lovers still love Stalin even though he was responsible for the deaths of at least 20,000,000, or maybe they all died of old age; yes, the list goes on and on.

For Iraq, I see today that our Pentagon just awarded BlackwaterUSA another $92,000,000 contract.

Believe me, in another time and place and under a different president, BlackwaterUSA would be an enemy of the United States.

For Iraq, British-based Aegis Defense Services has just been awarded a $475,000,000 contract.

Iraq is big business for our new, global "disaster economy," where our governments pour our tax money into the pockets of "private contractors" to such a degree that greed and corruption is inevitable. Nowadays, a $500 toilet seat is a drop in the bucket and the bucket has no bottom.

It's in the best interests of those in the "disaster economy" business to keep the electricity broken, the water unclean, etc. You in Iraq who are waiting for basic utilities and amenities are their Golden Goose.

And to keep more simple-minded Americans diverted from the hard truth of where our money goes, our newest enemies are "illegal immigrants." Illegal immigrants abuse our sweet, generous nature and our flawless healthcare system. That's who's getting all our tax dollars! It's not BlackwaterUSA, it's not the Carlyle Group or Halliburton or your Uncle Walter, it's those dirty illegal immigrants!

The "privatization" of American government and American life through "outsourcing" to private companies has given power and money to many whose principal interest is just that: power and money. For these businessmen, there is no honor in being compassionate, in being of service, unless there are people to dominate and money to be had.

The corruption and greed and bloodlust that surrounds the situation in Iraq is so powerful, I joke and say the only hope is that little green men from another planet, or maybe it will be God, who will come down and buy the bastards out, so maybe they'll all go to sunny, tropical Antarctica and leave the rest of us alone to enjoy life.

Finally, for those who think Iran is a nation of holocaust-denying beasts, here's a link to an article on Arabic calligraphy and Iranian graphic design:

Iranian Typography Now

Islamic Calligraphy

I hope you keep your spirits up Mohammed and give my regards to your loved ones!
You're the man!

LJM said...

I don't think Iran is a nation of "holocaust denying beasts." They just had a TV mini-series about an Iranian diplomat in Paris ( supposed to be based a someone real) who issued visas to some 500 French Jews to keep them from being sent to the camps. He's supposed to be the Iranian Oscar Schindler/Raul Wallenburg. Anyway, apparently people in Iran were riveted by the program. Many who watched didn't know about these times. There's plenty of ignorance to go around. People in the US really don't understand all that's gone on in the middle east. Ahmadinejad's position isn't the same as all the people in Iran or even all the ayatollahs there.

mark said...

I saw an Iranian movie last year, Men At Work, which I thought was very good. From watching it, it almost seems as though everyone on Earth has the same conflicted issues of personal identity.

Off-topic, but speaking of pointing fingers, somebody here might get a kick out of seeing this little video of

The Greatest Finger-Pointer Of All Time, singing a great finger-pointing song, heh heh.

Enjoy!

Mohammed said...

Mark,
Hi friend , thank you for your view , and I beleive it's completely true but it's not the only cause , sure the main cause of what happens in Iraq is money and power and as you said it , iraq is the golden goose for every one not only the contractors because Iraq have all the resources in the world , it's the private contractors , iraqi contractors , iraqi politicans , members in the government and the parliment even the militias and insurgents......etc.
they are all after these two: money and power what ever the way to achieve it or what ever who does it , it's money and power , but I sometimes think , power over whom when the Iraq is depleted of Iraqis? it's true that Iraq will never be depleted of Iraqis but let's say shortage?money is always there and will never deplet from iraq I can assure that .
Iraq is floating on money literally.
and Iraqis never got a hand on this money and never enjoyed it like the gulf countries , infact they were cursed for the blessings in Iraq all their troubles are because of this money , why don't they take it and leave us in peace! that's a naive way of thinking , but that's what the Iraqis wish now.

Mohammed said...

Ljm and Mark,
Sorry I didn't understand well about Iran and that Iranian in the mini-series ? could you tell more details?

LJM said...

I read an article about the mini-series. Apparently, forces in Iran are countering Ahmadinejad's holocaust denial talk by having this mini-series on Iranian TV. I found the article when I was googling for news about Iran. Anyway, they would have had to get the highest permission from the ayatollahs to show it, because they wanted it to look totally authentic using Iranian actors. The women were shown dressed as women looked in France during that time, with no head covering. The story was an obvious made for TV story, but the main character was based on someone who was supposed to have been an Iranian diplomat in Paris. At that time in history, keep in mind, Iran had a pretty large Jewish community and I've read that Baghdad had a Jewish population of about 1/3rd the city at that time, 60 years ago. There's a large Jewish community in India now that are people who had to leave Baghdad when all the M.E. countries were expelling them after WWII. In India, these people are referred to as Baghdadis and not described as Jewish, although they are. Iran still has thousands of Jews living there. I think Iraq has about 8. Egypt doesn't have many more than that and they are all old. There are more Jews from M.E. and North African countries living in Israel now, that those who came from Europe after the holocaust or even those who came from Russia after the end of the Soviet Union. These M.E. Jews lost their citizenship in these various countries when Israel was established. The Jews who come from these Middle Eastern countries and also are desendants from those who came from Spain before the inquisition, are called Sepahardic Jews. Those who come from northern Europe are known as Ashkenazi. Each group has a head rabbi in Jerusalem and they don't seem to always recognize each other as an official group. When you read cookbooks for the Sephardic Jewish community, the cuisine is Middle Eastern and also North African in origin. Of course, there were Jews living in what is now Israel. Saladin's physician was a Spanish Jew, highly revered, named Moses Maimonides. In the end, we're all probably related and distant cousins, 6 degrees of separation and all.

Anonymous said...

See all the comments here about Ahmadinejad's alleged (and I say alleged, because no-one I know understands Farsi) denial of the holocaust!!!
Ahmadinejad is now being ruthlessly demonised in exactly the same way Saddam Hussein was.
Shortly, we will see where paid Iranians will start denouncing their country in the worst, terrible ways, exactly like Iraqis such as Ahmed Chalabi did. The Western media in their role as cheer leaders for war, will exaggerate and amplify these stories.

Even today when Westerners talk about Iraq they say, "Oh, but at least the Iraqis don't have Saddam any more, so they can't really be that badly off!"

Anonymous said...

THANKSGIVING MASSACRE IN FALLUJAH: the path to destruction of Iraq as a country


Three years after Massacre in Fallujah which set up the strategy of death. Destruction and eventual division of Iraq, despite the Mass media propaganda that things are going well in Iraq. Iraq’s oil is being stolen, the population is being forced out of the country, all freedoms are curtailed and the population is terrorized by a force of more than 150 thousands mercenaries, thousands of Iranian backed Shia Gangsters and the US occupation force! Three years ago a city was terrorized wiped out and now Iraq has been successfully shredded.




Thanksgiving Massacre in Fallujah: 3rd Anniversary

Although many War Crimes have been committed against the defenceless Muslim population of Iraq, none is comparable to the multiple massacres which occurred in the most beautiful historical city of Fallujah, which was obliterated in operation code named “Thanksgiving Massacre”.
Some philanthropists around the world are wondering as what happened to the anti war movement and what happened to the war critics after September 2007 and what happened to all anti-war movement in the US we have only one answer the course is set in Iraq. Americans Democrats and Republicans are going to be following the Bush’s War and spend the “borrowed Chinese money” in the war in Iraq. All those intellectual critics of the war can breeze easy as the surge has succeeded, Iraq is virtually divided, almost four millions are refugees in Jordan and Syria, and the rest are fighting each other in a land which is controlled by more than 150,000 blood thirsty mercenaries.
Has anyone heard of any major attack on oil Pipe Line? Iraq is not in the news any more since the beginning of September! CNN is talking about Oppression in Myanmar and Darfur now that Americans have solved the Middle East problems.

This is cursory report of the events from reporters outside the US corporate media which has become the megaphone for the US propaganda and cover-up.

The US manufactured the phantom “Al Qaeda” which is the translation of the CIA “data Base” and fabricated an Islamic enemy which does not exist and is terrorizing the world under the guise of its Fake War on Terror.

We have to expose these treacheries which have fooled the world into accepting these US factionary terrorist Action Figures so it may continue its horrendous crimes against humanity and blackmailing the legitimate Governments in the region.

THANKSGIVING: CELEBRATING GENOCIDE

It has been about 20 years since I was last here and I am just looking forward to looking our boys in the eye and telling them what a great job they have done here." (Donald Rumsfeld, the Butcher of FALLUJAH, Baghdad 2004)

As Americans are celebrating their Thanksgiving Day they not only should remember the massacre of 700 Pequot Indians in 1637, which is the benchmark of the rotten and bloodthirsty origin of Thanksgiving, but also separate themselves from their shameful past by condemning the “Thanksgiving Massacre” of Fallujah.

It is a historical fact that the American Troops used white phosphorus, and a Napalm substitute, MK77, banned by the United Nations, against a defenceless civilian population to obliterate the city of Fallujah, the heart of Sunni Triangle.

This Massacre and many thereafter has not diminished the resolve of Iraqis to resist the occupation.

It is the duty and responsibility of all Muslim brothers and sisters to tear apart the curtain of deceit and expose the crusaders In Iraq.

Crusaders are against Islam not Shia or Sunni’s. “Thanksgiving Massacre of Fallujah” was meant to give a lesson in history that when in many Crusades innocent Muslims were murdered in cold blood.

The massacre was committed in order to force Iraqis to accept the Illegal occupation of their country and accept the US PUPPETS as their legitimate rulers.

In this 1st Anniversary of Fallujah Massacre it is HIGH TIME for all the good Americans to disassociate themselves from the ugly Americans in Bush Administration who designed, executed, and covered up what really happened in Fallujah and have forbidden any news out of this devastated city which was once the center of a civilized and pious population.

This is the first anniversary of the massacre and our heart should bleed for over 380 thousands population of the City of one thousands Mosques.

One year ago this month the US, with the support of the British, began its second major assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah (an attack originally codenamed "Thanksgiving Massacre").

This massive and unprecedented offensive devastated a city the size of Plymouth (the US State Department estimated 100% of the city’s housing was damaged to some degree) and killed many hundreds of civilians. Even now not only Fullujah looks like a devastated Ghost Town; but the whole occupied Iraq looks like a devastated war-torn city controlled by Black Water mercenaries.

British troops which had been redeployed specially from southern Iraq to help form a "ring of steel" around the city have gone.

An earlier attack in April 2004 had killed at least 600 civilians. See Jo Wilding’s report of the siege. Report

US forces committed major war crimes during the assaults including: warplanes, fighter bombers, military helicopters and gun ships were used to attack residential areas, killing many civilians.

A 'shoot-to-kill curfew' was imposed with 'anyone spotted in the soldiers' night vision sights…shot' (Times, 12 Nov 04) and there were numerous press reports of US snipers firing on - and killing - unarmed civilians, including children.

Several reports strongly suggested that US snipers targeted ambulances in Fallujah
the city's main hospital was closed by marines and a sniper was placed on top of the hospital's water tower in violation of the Geneva Convention (Guardian, 24 April 04)
U.S. forces blocked an aid convoy trying to enter Fallujah’s main hospital. The convoy turned back after three days. (Reuters, 15 Nov 2004).

Male refugees were prevented from leaving the combat zone (AP, 13 Nov 04). US forces were filmed killing an unarmed, wounded Iraqi (Guardian, 16 Nov 04).

US warplanes dropped 3 bombs on the Central Health Centre clinic, killing 35 patients (including 5 children under the age of ten) and 24 medical staff (The Nation, 13 Dec 04)
US forces used phosphorus weapons 'that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water' (Washington Post, 10 Nov 04).

The November 2004 assault was trailed well in advance and generated a brief spurt of anti-war activity here in the UK. Reports

Since then, however, media reports on Fallujah have been scarce as anyone who tries to document the massacre is intimidated, murdered or forced out of Iraq.

The plight of the city’s inhabitants totalling 380 thousands civilians who fled the attack and have yet to return to their homes – appears to have been largely forgotten.

Not long after the assault the US and Iraqi leaders declared that Fallujah would become a "model city"' (Boston Globe, 5 Dec) and have used daily intimidation, curfews, ID cards, Cornea scanning, repression, torture and detentions to recreate the city with no result.

Meanwhile, further assaults during the past 3 years on Iraqi cities including Qaim, Karabila and Tal Afar have killed over 100 thousands of Iraqis, wounded hundreds of thousands more and forced millions to be refugees in their own country.

All these have happened with complicity of Corporate media which has produced fabricated and sanitized reports out of Iraq to sell the war to the gullible and conformist Americans who worry about their SUV’s and economic prosperity far more than thinking where their prosperity is coming from and how it is achieved by devastating others and destroying the earth.

"BODIES MELTED AWAY BEFORE US"

On Monday Nov. 7, 2005 Italian Satellite TV broadcasted Evidence of banned chemical weapons by the US military on Civilians in Fallujah and elsewhere in Iraq.

Documentary evidence of the use by US troops of phosphorus and a new formulation of Napalm [MK77] on the Sunni civilian population were broadcasted on international satellite TV.

Yet up to now no major News organization has broadcasted the Global coverage of the atrocity which appeared in La Repubblica.

Bush Administration is shamed before the eyes of the world not only for the massacre in Fallujah but to use banned Chemicals, white phosphorus, the real WMD, on civilians.

Brave people of Iraq despite the many subterfuges of the US Forces to separate, divide and antagonize them against each other are resisting the brutal invasion and occupation of their country while the United Nations has been forced into silence.

Indeed the whole world is looking the other way while a small country of Iraq is being violated and subjected to the American bombardment, economic, cultural and psychological devastation.

THE UGLY AMERICANS

In this Thanksgiving it is up to the Good Americans, whose representatives have been bribed or blackmailed by the Israeli Lobby into silence or inaction, to separate themselves from the Ugly Americans who have massacred over 100,000 Iraqis, poisoned their land, violated their national integrity and have caused over 2000 young Americans die for the Christian Evangelists Crusade against Islam.

Maybe it is high time to bring the troops home and face the reality of over 20,000 permanently disabled veterans and 100,000 brave young men whose has lost their soul in Iraq by rape, murder, torture of other human beings and would be returned home with permanent psychological damage and mental problems.

It is also a great time to re-open not only the investigation on the fraud and treason which were committed by the Bush Administration into deceiving the US citizens commit mass murder in the middle east, but also to open the 911 files.

OIL & THE SPOILS OF WAR

It is quite possible that a leadership which has lied about Iraq to its own citizenry, arranged, staged, organized, planned and executed 911 to justify its war on terror propaganda which was a prelude to their Project for the New American Century which sought to PERMANENTLY CONTROL the oil resources of the Middle East.

The War on Terror should be waged against a government which is terrorizing the world not against Muslims or Middle Eastern Men who never attacked the US and never participated in the Implosion of WTC.

Those who removed all evidence of explosives in the Core of the Steel structures and purposely shipped the contaminated soil and steel structure are the terrorist who attacked the US to get it into a war gear to justify the occupation of Iraq.

The criminals must be prosecuted. Yet if after 7 years of torture, mass murder and incarceration of many, who were accused, we have not got one conviction, we have to look at criminals who got benefit for their criminal enterprise. Al Qaeda did not profit from 911! To look for the real terrorists we have to look at the bank account of those who became rich from the War on Terror. Until we look at the mirror and see the real terrorist, who are benefiting from the secured Middle East Oil, the occupation and carnage would continue! There is no end to the devastation and massacre in the Middle East. The carnage in Iraq would continue for decades to come

FARHAT QUAEM MAQUAMI

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THANKSGIVING MASSACRE IN FALLUJAH: 3RD ANNIVERSARY

Fallujah was the hear and soul of Iraq, its devastation by the US Occupation was the beginning of the end of Iraq as a country!!


Three years after Massacre in Fallujah which set up the strategy of death. Destruction and eventual division of Iraq, despite the Mass media propaganda that things are going well in Iraq. Iraq’s oil is being stolen, the population is being forced out of the country, all freedoms are curtailed and the population is terrorized by a force of more than 150 thousands mercenaries, thousands of Iranian backed Shia Gangsters and the US occupation force! Three years ago a city was terrorized wiped out and now Iraq has been successfully shredded.




Thanksgiving Massacre in Fallujah: 3rd Anniversary

Although many War Crimes have been committed against the defenceless Muslim population of Iraq, none is comparable to the multiple massacres which occurred in the most beautiful historical city of Fallujah, which was obliterated in operation code named “Thanksgiving Massacre”.
Some philanthropists around the world are wondering as what happened to the anti war movement and what happened to the war critics after September 2007 and what happened to all anti-war movement in the US we have only one answer the course is set in Iraq. Americans Democrats and Republicans are going to be following the Bush’s War and spend the “borrowed Chinese money” in the war in Iraq. All those intellectual critics of the war can breeze easy as the surge has succeeded, Iraq is virtually divided, almost four millions are refugees in Jordan and Syria, and the rest are fighting each other in a land which is controlled by more than 150,000 blood thirsty mercenaries.
Has anyone heard of any major attack on oil Pipe Line? Iraq is not in the news any more since the beginning of September! CNN is talking about Oppression in Myanmar and Darfur now that Americans have solved the Middle East problems.

This is cursory report of the events from reporters outside the US corporate media which has become the megaphone for the US propaganda and cover-up.

The US manufactured the phantom “Al Qaeda” which is the translation of the CIA “data Base” and fabricated an Islamic enemy which does not exist and is terrorizing the world under the guise of its Fake War on Terror.

We have to expose these treacheries which have fooled the world into accepting these US factionary terrorist Action Figures so it may continue its horrendous crimes against humanity and blackmailing the legitimate Governments in the region.

THANKSGIVING: CELEBRATING GENOCIDE

It has been about 20 years since I was last here and I am just looking forward to looking our boys in the eye and telling them what a great job they have done here." (Donald Rumsfeld, the Butcher of FALLUJAH, Baghdad 2004)

As Americans are celebrating their Thanksgiving Day they not only should remember the massacre of 700 Pequot Indians in 1637, which is the benchmark of the rotten and bloodthirsty origin of Thanksgiving, but also separate themselves from their shameful past by condemning the “Thanksgiving Massacre” of Fallujah.

It is a historical fact that the American Troops used white phosphorus, and a Napalm substitute, MK77, banned by the United Nations, against a defenceless civilian population to obliterate the city of Fallujah, the heart of Sunni Triangle.

This Massacre and many thereafter has not diminished the resolve of Iraqis to resist the occupation.

It is the duty and responsibility of all Muslim brothers and sisters to tear apart the curtain of deceit and expose the crusaders In Iraq.

Crusaders are against Islam not Shia or Sunni’s. “Thanksgiving Massacre of Fallujah” was meant to give a lesson in history that when in many Crusades innocent Muslims were murdered in cold blood.

The massacre was committed in order to force Iraqis to accept the Illegal occupation of their country and accept the US PUPPETS as their legitimate rulers.

In this 1st Anniversary of Fallujah Massacre it is HIGH TIME for all the good Americans to disassociate themselves from the ugly Americans in Bush Administration who designed, executed, and covered up what really happened in Fallujah and have forbidden any news out of this devastated city which was once the center of a civilized and pious population.

This is the first anniversary of the massacre and our heart should bleed for over 380 thousands population of the City of one thousands Mosques.

One year ago this month the US, with the support of the British, began its second major assault on the Iraqi city of Fallujah (an attack originally codenamed "Thanksgiving Massacre").

This massive and unprecedented offensive devastated a city the size of Plymouth (the US State Department estimated 100% of the city’s housing was damaged to some degree) and killed many hundreds of civilians. Even now not only Fullujah looks like a devastated Ghost Town; but the whole occupied Iraq looks like a devastated war-torn city controlled by Black Water mercenaries.

British troops which had been redeployed specially from southern Iraq to help form a "ring of steel" around the city have gone.

An earlier attack in April 2004 had killed at least 600 civilians. See Jo Wilding’s report of the siege. Report

US forces committed major war crimes during the assaults including: warplanes, fighter bombers, military helicopters and gun ships were used to attack residential areas, killing many civilians.

A 'shoot-to-kill curfew' was imposed with 'anyone spotted in the soldiers' night vision sights…shot' (Times, 12 Nov 04) and there were numerous press reports of US snipers firing on - and killing - unarmed civilians, including children.

Several reports strongly suggested that US snipers targeted ambulances in Fallujah
the city's main hospital was closed by marines and a sniper was placed on top of the hospital's water tower in violation of the Geneva Convention (Guardian, 24 April 04)
U.S. forces blocked an aid convoy trying to enter Fallujah’s main hospital. The convoy turned back after three days. (Reuters, 15 Nov 2004).

Male refugees were prevented from leaving the combat zone (AP, 13 Nov 04). US forces were filmed killing an unarmed, wounded Iraqi (Guardian, 16 Nov 04).

US warplanes dropped 3 bombs on the Central Health Centre clinic, killing 35 patients (including 5 children under the age of ten) and 24 medical staff (The Nation, 13 Dec 04)
US forces used phosphorus weapons 'that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water' (Washington Post, 10 Nov 04).

The November 2004 assault was trailed well in advance and generated a brief spurt of anti-war activity here in the UK. Reports

Since then, however, media reports on Fallujah have been scarce as anyone who tries to document the massacre is intimidated, murdered or forced out of Iraq.

The plight of the city’s inhabitants totalling 380 thousands civilians who fled the attack and have yet to return to their homes – appears to have been largely forgotten.

Not long after the assault the US and Iraqi leaders declared that Fallujah would become a "model city"' (Boston Globe, 5 Dec) and have used daily intimidation, curfews, ID cards, Cornea scanning, repression, torture and detentions to recreate the city with no result.

Meanwhile, further assaults during the past 3 years on Iraqi cities including Qaim, Karabila and Tal Afar have killed over 100 thousands of Iraqis, wounded hundreds of thousands more and forced millions to be refugees in their own country.

All these have happened with complicity of Corporate media which has produced fabricated and sanitized reports out of Iraq to sell the war to the gullible and conformist Americans who worry about their SUV’s and economic prosperity far more than thinking where their prosperity is coming from and how it is achieved by devastating others and destroying the earth.

"BODIES MELTED AWAY BEFORE US"

On Monday Nov. 7, 2005 Italian Satellite TV broadcasted Evidence of banned chemical weapons by the US military on Civilians in Fallujah and elsewhere in Iraq.

Documentary evidence of the use by US troops of phosphorus and a new formulation of Napalm [MK77] on the Sunni civilian population were broadcasted on international satellite TV.

Yet up to now no major News organization has broadcasted the Global coverage of the atrocity which appeared in La Repubblica.

Bush Administration is shamed before the eyes of the world not only for the massacre in Fallujah but to use banned Chemicals, white phosphorus, the real WMD, on civilians.

Brave people of Iraq despite the many subterfuges of the US Forces to separate, divide and antagonize them against each other are resisting the brutal invasion and occupation of their country while the United Nations has been forced into silence.

Indeed the whole world is looking the other way while a small country of Iraq is being violated and subjected to the American bombardment, economic, cultural and psychological devastation.

THE UGLY AMERICANS

In this Thanksgiving it is up to the Good Americans, whose representatives have been bribed or blackmailed by the Israeli Lobby into silence or inaction, to separate themselves from the Ugly Americans who have massacred over 100,000 Iraqis, poisoned their land, violated their national integrity and have caused over 2000 young Americans die for the Christian Evangelists Crusade against Islam.

Maybe it is high time to bring the troops home and face the reality of over 20,000 permanently disabled veterans and 100,000 brave young men whose has lost their soul in Iraq by rape, murder, torture of other human beings and would be returned home with permanent psychological damage and mental problems.

It is also a great time to re-open not only the investigation on the fraud and treason which were committed by the Bush Administration into deceiving the US citizens commit mass murder in the middle east, but also to open the 911 files.

OIL & THE SPOILS OF WAR

It is quite possible that a leadership which has lied about Iraq to its own citizenry, arranged, staged, organized, planned and executed 911 to justify its war on terror propaganda which was a prelude to their Project for the New American Century which sought to PERMANENTLY CONTROL the oil resources of the Middle East.

The War on Terror should be waged against a government which is terrorizing the world not against Muslims or Middle Eastern Men who never attacked the US and never participated in the Implosion of WTC.

Those who removed all evidence of explosives in the Core of the Steel structures and purposely shipped the contaminated soil and steel structure are the terrorist who attacked the US to get it into a war gear to justify the occupation of Iraq.

The criminals must be prosecuted. Yet if after 7 years of torture, mass murder and incarceration of many, who were accused, we have not got one conviction, we have to look at criminals who got benefit for their criminal enterprise. Al Qaeda did not profit from 911! To look for the real terrorists we have to look at the bank account of those who became rich from the War on Terror. Until we look at the mirror and see the real terrorist, who are benefiting from the secured Middle East Oil, the occupation and carnage would continue! There is no end to the devastation and massacre in the Middle East. The carnage in Iraq would continue for decades to come

FARHAT QUAEM MAQUAMI

anonygus said...

I am an American and I have been reading this website to try to get the truth about what is going on in Iraq and how the Iraqi people really feel about the Americans. The people on this blog seem for the most part to be intelligent and knoweledgable and I just have a question that has never been answered to my satisfaction. Maybe someone here can help.
When America first went to war in Iraq it was supposed to be to root out the terrorists that were supposedly there and to find "weapons of mass destruction".
Can someone please tell me why Iraq was such a target for war when not one of the people who flew those airplanes into the towers and the pentagon were Iraqis. It seemed to me like most of them were from Saudi Arabia. Why then was Saudi Arabia not the target for this war.
And if our government was so worried about overthrowing a "tyrant", couldn't they have found worse ones to over throw in Africa. I read about even worse human rights abuse going on over there. Well, if someone, preferably someone from Iraq, can answer these questions I would appreciate it. Personally if our government told me on a hot summer day at noon that the sun was shining I would have to go outside and double check to make sure it was the truth.
Sorry about being so long winded.