Friday, June 15, 2007
neighborhood of sorrow
This video (I have taken a week ago) shows the road to Adhamyia(one of the most ingrained neighborhood in Baghdad) which is controlled now by Al-Qaeda , I have video-taped it myself at 2pm. It is heart-burning video for any Iraqi . The video starts from 'Antar' square where Adhamyia starts , passing through one of the most active and crowded streets in the past then turning to 'Althobat' St. which was also one of the beautiful streets of Baghdad with shops and people walking around , it used to be very active neighborhood in the past . For those who doesn't know Adhamyia I should give a short assay about it: Adhamyia before the war was a very nice and quiet neighborhood in which a considerable number of Shiite families and majority of Sunni living side by side in peace , and there was absolutely nothing bothering in this neighborhood . Saddam legislated a law that states any one who wasn't born in Adhamyia before 1948 can't own a land or a house in it (Adhamyia is the only neighborhood that has such a law) , so it's obvious that all the people who live in Adhamyia are long-time neighbors and that what makes this neighborhood so special , when you enter it you feel the intimacy between the people there , in addition to the great shops and the beautiful streets where people used to walk in the afternoons , it was great , just great . Till the war begun where it started to get worse , It was the last place where Saddam was seen in Baghdad (after the statue has fallen down) so there were heavy clashes between the US army and the remnants of the former Iraqi Army and special forces which caused a great deal of destruction .after that it was considered to be the Sunni stronghold although as I mentioned there were many Shiite there , so Al-Qaeda was trying to have control over it and they succeeded eventually in the last year . It's a terrible place now , one can feel the destruction in every brick of each wall , the asphalt of the streets feels like it has been mixed with sadness and tears . where ever you point your head you see signs of death and destruction and I think that's Al-Qaeda goal in order to undermine the authority of the government , and that what happened in it , they started killing the Shiite families so the rest of them decided to leave the neighborhood if they weren't threatened . the militants are every where on their motorbikes and cars , it's unusual if 30 minutes passed without the sounds of bullets or an explosion , the streets are so empty .there is no single police patrol car or national guard hammer that can stop inside adhamiya , if they pass in it's streets then they will be driving insanely fast , in the video before the intersection (before it's end) there is a wreck of concrete , that was a national guard check point 10 days ago , it was constructed about 20 days earlier , and I'm not over exaggerating if I say that every 15 minutes they are attacked by the militants whether Al-Qaeda or the Islamic army or whatever militants there is , until they forced them to leave this checkpoint .before that checkpoint you will see a long street that had three of the most famous super markets in Baghdad , that street used to be very crowded , it takes about 15 minutes to pass it and now as you see it took me about a minute .then you will see the burnt up shop which used to be a home appliances shop , I used to be a customer , unfortunately now it's just a wreck . And I'm just another Iraqi wail over his country and the neighborhood in which he spent most of his life and had the most beautiful memories there.
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)





39 comments:
The music you selected perfectly sets the mood of anguish in viewing this neighborhood or perhaps better stated, what is left of this neighborhood. It is striking to see nobody outside. I know it's very hot over there and that comes through in looking at your film. Thank you putting this up for all of us to see.
LJM
Today the big news story in the US is about Hammas taking over Gaza. Could turn into another really fundamentalist place. It's another example of people needing to be careful what they wish for, they might get it. The Fatah people and other secular people living there have even harder times coming their way.
I hope the curfew lifting in Baghdad has worked out ok for you and everybody else over there.
LJM
I think that was excellent writing you did there Mohammed (just as a piece of writing, in and of itself). I could tell how much it hurts you see it like this.
Man, I am so sorry we botched this occupation up so badly. And, “sorry” don't even begin to help.
Thank you guys for these great comments , It was very nice of you Lee c. , and remember that was a video and it was blurred by youtube , in the original copy you could see the massive amount of bullets on the walls and remember it's alot worst when you see it by your self , anyway it realy helps me when I see such compassion from you.thank you guys.
Mohammed,
Once the Coalition forces toppled Saddam Hussein's regime back in April of 2003, most of what has occurred in Iraq has been, in my opinion, inevitable. Perhaps better decisions may have effected minor differences in outcome, but the warfare between those who lost (former regime members and the Anbar Baathists in general), those who gained (Sunnis on many levels), and those who would simply like to see as much carnage and destruction of Iraq as possible (Al Qaeda in Iraq) would still have happened.
About a year ago, Nir Rosen, just back from a visit to Iraq, wrote in the Washington Post:
The world wonders if Iraq is on the brink of civil war, while Iraqis fear calling it one, knowing the fate such a description would portend. In truth, the civil war started long before Samarra and long before the first uprisings. It started when U.S. troops arrived in Baghdad. It began when Sunnis discovered what they had lost, and Shiites learned what they had gained. And the worst is yet to come.
*
The only thing we might have to compare to the kind of feeling of loss you describe, is after we have had a severe storm with massive amounts of destruction, or maybe 9/11.
I hope one day that this neighborhood, and others like it in Iraq, will bloom again with life.
Take care.
Thank you so much for this video, i am a real-life friend of both Nabil and Zeyad and I left Adhamiya in September 2006, it was relatively a little like this in some days before i left but now it's much more horrible, matter of fact just the sight which i forgot of the desolation encompassing that video is very tragic.
I wrote
Perhaps better decisions may have effected minor differences in outcome, but the warfare between those who lost (former regime members and the Anbar Baathists in general), those who gained (Sunnis on many levels), and those who would simply like to see as much carnage and destruction of Iraq as possible (Al Qaeda in Iraq) would still have happened.
"Sunnis on many levels" should read "Shia on many levels," of course.
*
Jeffry;
At the first place when Saddam regimen was destroyed and the US troops entered Baghdad , all the people (Shiite & Sunni) thought that there will be democracy and freedome and liberation so IF we want to build democracy there should be no looseres or winneres(gainers) all should participate in the new selected government so no sect should be put aside that's my opinion...so the first big mistake is that there are winneres and loosers , so it is something natural that the ex-winners who is now loosers will try to get back to the winning state , or at least be in draw!!in the democracy no sect should be neglected or put aside!right???the second biggest mistake is the breaking up of the army and intelligence who controlled Iraq with an iron fist , I agree that there are many bad members in them , but they should be dimissed gradually not in the way that happened.so the control will not be lost.there should have
been intorigations and investigations to identify the corrupted members in the army and intelligence and dismiss them or put them in jail after fair trials , and believe me if that happened none of this would happen , and the US will have absolute victory in Iraq and all the Iraqi people would be happy and live in prosperity
lynnette;
thank you very much and I wish that too.
Konfused Kid;
Thank you very much for your participation in my Blog you are most welcome here , I'm sure we know each other if we meet.I heared about you from Nabil.believe me it's alot worst (Aladhamia) if you see it by your eyes.
Mohammed,
been intorigations and investigations to identify the corrupted members in the army and intelligence and dismiss them or put them in jail after fair trials , and believe me if that happened none of this would happen , and the US will have absolute victory in Iraq and all the Iraqi people would be happy and live in prosperity
I'm not sure I can agree with you here. The first problem is that the entire regime fell so quickly and lots of the Anbar Baathists hid out and began planning their counter-attack just days after April 9, 2003.
Second, there was no governmental apparatus (nor will) to round up and try the "bad members" of the former regime. By the way, by "bad members" I'm not talking one or two hundred. There must have been tens of thousands who had blood on their hands. They were mostly Sunna with tribal ties back into Anbar, where they could always count on the protection from their tribes.
And third, Iraq had no functioning police force or army to bring in anyone who had been tagged a "bad member." And even if there had been some governmental group who had attempted to arrest these "bad members," they would have encountered armed tribal groups. So I really don't see that working at all.
So, now, after studying everything I could get my hands on about Iraq and listening to the Iraqi bloggers for the last four years, I understand, along with Nir Rosen, that most of what happened was inevitable. The Shia profitted immensely by having the Coalition forces pull the Sunna Baathists off their backs. Except for Muqtada, most of the Shia were very patient for the good reason that they KNEW that in democracy NUMBERS count and they had the numbers. And the Sunna Baathists knew this too, which is why they aligned themselves with Al Qaeda in Iraq to try to bring down the government (which was their only hope to return to power).
Mohammed, I have come to this after a lot of thinking. You can disagree with any point I have made, but I'm afraid that I don't agree that any of this could have averted. I could be wrong, but this is my best guess, knowing now a lot more about Iraq than I did four years ago.
At the same time, I think that in time there still is a chance that Iraq can acquire something like a representative democracy -- with unique Iraqi characteristics, of course.
*
Mohammed, you are a precious soul. God, I wish this nightmare would end for you and your family.
Bridget
jeffry;
Your answear is very reasonable and i'm sure you know alot about Iraq and Iraqis but still you are not Iraqi so I'll tell you something I think you never heared before.
You are talking about Anbar tribes at the begining you should know that I'm not related in any way to any of the Anbar tribes so i'm not defending them i'm just giving you information missed by the media.and this information after i'll do a good reaserch about it i'll make it a post.in the days of Saddam regeimn (i don't know exactly the year but i think in 1998 or around it , not sure) one of the tribes in Anbar had a called (Albo-Nimir) had a revolution against Saddam they even stole tanks and choppers from the army it was really messed up situation . they were very violent , it continued for more than a month . i'm not sure about the cause so after i'll check it i'll make a post , anyway what i want you to know that Anbar tribes are not loyal to Saddam and there is a very solid proof that when the US troops controlled Baghdad the only government that surrendered without resistance is Anbar....and by the way I went to Anbar afew times and believe they are the most generous and kind people ever , they are very good people , and If you think that what is happening in Anbar is done by Anbar tribes then you are mistaken , most of them are from neighbor arab countries and some of the thugs of the Anbar as you know it is a border government and they are know for the smuggling so they have good people and bad people as anywhere in the globe.
the second thing I don't agree with you about tens of thousands carrying blood on their hands I think they wouldn't exceed one thousand but I have no proof on that just because I lived in both eras and i know the slayers back there , you should know that know there are more people in the government carrying blood on their hands than the past era.and about the steps or procedure i think that the army and most importantly the intelligance should have called back to their duties with the presence of the American forces as the higher power . and use the blood-carrying people to prevent the formation of militias (using them) then getting rid of them gradually (it's politics) when the US forces have made a solid foundation from the clean people.don't you agree. so the order will not be missed.
Mohammed,
I was aware of the trouble that Saddam Hussein sometimes had with various Anbar tribes. But what I meant was that individual Baathists -- those with the most blood on their hands -- could always count on using their tribal connections to protect them if anyone from the new government would try to arrest them. Does this make sense to you?
As I suggested earlier, you assume that in the first six months after the April 9, 2003, there were functioning institutions that were in place to locate and arrest and try those who had been deemed dangerous. But look at Muqtada Al-Sadr. The court system issued a warrant for his arrest for his involvement in the death of rival al-Khoie. But the Iraqi police and army were only in the first stages of being reformed and would have faced a all-out battle against the Medhi militia if they had tried to arrest him. And Sistani must have been a factor then, too, just as he was in Najaf in August of 2004.
i think that the army and most importantly the intelligance should have called back to their duties with the presence of the American forces as the higher power . and use the blood-carrying people to prevent the formation of militias (using them) then getting rid of them gradually (it's politics) when the US forces have made a solid foundation from the clean people.don't you agree.
From what I've read, the hardcore Baathists started to re-organize themselves almost immediately after the fall of Baghdad. And they began working with Al Qaeda in Iraq. Bringing these people back, in my opinion, would have been a greater disaster. I cannot any of the many Shia whose families had been ripped apart by Saddam's regime would have been very happy with the same people from the Mukhabarat suddenly knocking on their doors again. The Iraqi blogosphere also has Shia bloggers whose families had to leave Iraq because of Saddam's Mukhabarat. I doubt if they would have felt safe with the same intelligence officers once again running things behind the scenes.
Again, I could be wrong, but I think the Sunna who lost control of a system that gave them so much power and cash were NEVER going to accept living in a representative democracy where their 20-25% votes in elections would reduce them to minority status in a country that they used to own.
One thing I've noticed is that while the Sunni bloggers talk about how people got along with one another, the Shia bloggers talk about how much they were persecuted under Saddam. While the average people in both groups suffered under Saddam, the Shia seem to have suffered more and felt that their extra suffering was precisely because of their religious affiliation. Sunni bloggers seem to have a blindspot about this.
Mohammed, this is a good debate. It's best if we push and back up our views with whatever we can find and that way both of us will learn something. In the end, you may have the stronger argument, but any argument needs to be challenged to make it stronger.
*
Bridget;
Thank you very much i'm so so happy with your comment , I need such comments to keep me going.
Jeffry;
I want you to know i'm not bloging for challenges but to reveal the truth i consider the trith is my goal and my second goal is informing the US nation of what's the real thing in iraq.and sure i want to debate with you as you said we will both learn something.
so let's start:
this somehow makes sense but only if they get to the Anbar then they will be protected and not always because all the respected tribes in Iraq if any one of it's members made something wrong and shameful they will not protect him they might even punish him this is something known in the tribes (not only Iraqi but Arabic) and by the way if someone made a crime and he is from Jaish Al-Mahdi or close to the Sistane or whatever wouldn't he get away with his crime?wouldn't he be protected?? and you gave me the evidence with Moqtada Al-Sadir...
About Moqtada , did you know why they didn't arrest him ??? because the majority of the police are loyal to him!!!it's the same as in Saddam era but we changed the names and sect!!if a criminal is related to Saddam he will not be punished , don't you think..and also because they are afraid of him becsue he have one of the strongest militias in Iraq...but since he is a criminal and had been convicted by the court and the US forces have evidence on him that his militia attacked the US troops and he announces this , why didn't they arrest him and hang him like Saddam!!they are the higher authority in Iraq now!!!am I wrong or what??
About the AQ and Baath party I think you are so wrong , because if you read the agenda of Baath you will know that it will never fit with Al-Qaeda agenda , Baath is non-religous party and Al-qaeda is religious fanatic and you should know that Saddam had no connection with AQ infact he hated them so much , he considered them as enemy I know that for a fact.and don't start talking about the shiite families being ripped many many sunni family was ripped also my father's friend who was a clean big Baathiest was executed by Saddam although he was Sunni do you know how??Saddam by his hands painted him with meat soup and unleashed hungry dogs on him so he was eaten alive then he killed his son and then his properties were confiscationed , do you know why??one day he was drunk and he said a joke about Saddam that's it.so what I want to say is that both Sunni and Shiite were damaged by Saddam and among them my father who deserved the promotion long time ago but didn't get it because he wasn't Baathiest and last in october he got the promotion he deserves then he was threatened do you know why?? because he is from a different sect!!!what's the difference know between the two eras???and about the intelligence , just ask any one of the Shiite who ran away from Iraq because they didn't feel safe , do they feel safe now???do they feel safe with the new intellegence they are worst than Saddam's reigmen...and by the way I want you to be more open-minded and take this example and study it in your head well before you answear.If in the US which is considered the leader of the world in all the aspects , is a man who is loyal to Al-Qaeda (or any other US enemy) and he is planning for an armed revolution or even did it , wouldn't he get arrested by the FBI??this is the same with who you call Shiite !!! they are not ordinary Shiite , they are loyal to Iran , which is Iraq's first enemy , they have made an armed revolution what do you want the government to do???watch them???ofcourse they will get arrested , they are against the reigmn . ordinary Shiite who are not loyal to Iran feared nothing..that's the truth take it from me and be sure i'm not defending any one or taking any side, i told you before i'm secular.
The Sunni as well as the Shitte would accept any justice but sadly there isn't any right now.
and about the police and military now i think you heard about the secret dungeons in the basement of the ministry of anterior and the torture that occurs in it... what's the difference we have made...believe me Jeffry we made absolutly no difference , it's the same but with different names if it's not worst now..and please please don't put me in any sect i told you i'm secular so I'm trying my best to tell the truth i don't care for any sect. they are the same to me...just(destroying the country)...I don't know if i was clear or not....
Mohammed,
and by the way if someone made a crime and he is from Jaish Al-Mahdi or close to the Sistane or whatever wouldn't he get away with his crime?wouldn't he be protected?? and you gave me the evidence with Moqtada Al-Sadir...
I agree. That the way I see it too. Everyone has a tribe or militia or sect to back them up in times of trouble.
About Moqtada , did you know why they didn't arrest him ??? because the majority of the police are loyal to him!!!it's the same as in Saddam era but we changed the names and sect!!if a criminal is related to Saddam he will not be punished , don't you think..and also because they are afraid of him becsue he have one of the strongest militias in Iraq...but since he is a criminal and had been convicted by the court and the US forces have evidence on him that his militia attacked the US troops and he announces this , why didn't they arrest him and hang him like Saddam!!they are the higher authority in Iraq now!!!am I wrong or what??
Again, we agree. I think the Americans should not have listened to Sistani. They should have taken Muqtada out and destroyed any Mehdi militia members in Najaf. They had them surrounded just we had surrounded and cut down every last jihadi terrorist and insurgent in Operation Phantom Fury (Nov., 2004 in Fallujah). Muqtada Al-Sadr should have been led out of Najaf in hand-cuffs.
I'm not sure I can agree with your third point, however. From everything I've read former regime elements ("Baathist" leaders who were no longer interested in Baathist ideology, if they ever were) worked with Al Qaeda in Iraq as a matter of convenience and as a way of increasing their lethality. Nir Rosen spent a lot of time with the insurgents and found many operations in which the Anbar insurgents worked with foreign jihadis. At the very least, the insurgents provided Al Qaeda in Iraq with housing, logistics, maps, and so on to carry out their suicide-bombing against the Iraqi people and administration.
Remember, Mohammed, the foreign fighters who came into Iraq before March 20, 2003, in some ways were more successful fighters than the actual Iraqi military. That wave of foreign fighters was just the first one. The successive waves were helped by former regime elements who wanted to seek revenge on both the Americans and the Iraqi "collaborators." Everything I have read reinforces this connection between foreign jihadis and former regime elements (who were no longer beholden to Baath ideology, of course, because they simply wanted to kill those who took away their power).
and by the way I want you to be more open-minded and take this example and study it in your head well before you answear.
No problem here. I will indeed try to keep my mind open to all possible views on the events taking place in a very complicated and violent part of the world.
The Sunni as well as the Shitte would accept any justice but sadly there isn't any right now.
The trial and hanging of Saddam was celebrated by many Iraqis, both Sunna and Shia. The arrest and trial of Muqtada Al-Sadr would also have helped the Iraqi people, both Sunna and Shia. To let someone indicted for a capital crime walk around free was a big mistake. The Sunna, I imagine, would have also been heartened to see Muqtada face a panel of judges for his involvment in al-Khoie's murder.
Thanks, Mohammed. We agree on quite a few points, but not all of them, which is to be expected. No two people will ever agree on everything.
Here's another question. You call yourself a secularist, right? Does that mean you never go to mosque to pray? Does that mean you never fast for Ramadam? Or does that mean you simply believe in the separation of mosque and state?
*
Mohammed,
This excerpt is from an interview with Ghaith Abdul-Ahad, ex-blogger and now a very fine journalist, who spent time with the insurgents:
[Were these insurgents collaborating with Al Qaeda]?
... In the beginning, the main figure I was talking to most of the time who was leading me through [these] stories and the whole community was an Iraqi guy. His name is Abu Theeb; i.e., the "Father of the Wolf." ... He is a religious person; he is a cleric. He was previously in the Iraqi security service, and they started fighting the Americans almost a week or two weeks after the Americans invaded Baghdad. As Abu Theeb explains it to me, the Iraqi resistance was scattered small cells fighting the Americans, focusing on the Americans. They didn't have this strategic perspective. They didn't know how to run the whole thing. They only focused on American units around them.
When the Al Qaeda came to Iraq, according to Abu Theeb, he said that Al Qaeda did something good for the insurgents in Iraq: It started attacking the establishments and the units of the new Iraqi state that the Americans were trying to create, and that was a welcome step forward for the insurgency in Iraq.
[But there was a split between the groups?]
...[T]he split happened when [Abu Musab] al-Zarqawi and Al Qaeda decided to attack all the Shi'a. There is an ideological difference between [the two groups] ... The Iraqis and Abu Theeb are Salafists. They believe in fighting; they believe in jihad; but they do not believe, as Al Qaeda people believe, in the concept of Takfir, which is calling anyone who doesn't believe in someone's ideas an infidel. ... So then a split started to happen [between] let's call it the Sunni insurgents of Iraq, between the Iraqi people who are trying to fight Americans, Shi'a, whatever, and the foreigners and the Al Qaeda people. ....
*
Mohammed,
I'm hearing rumors of a major offensive taking place in Baghdad. Any unusual activity?
Hmmm...this is how rumors are spread. I should have said taking place in "Iraq" not "Baghdad".
Mohammed,
Thank you for your blog. My heart is broken for all the good people of Iraq. I am so sorry things have come to this. Take care, stay strong.
Jeffrey;
I'm very glad too that we agree on many stuff , and I agree with you again that the foreign fighters we more effective than the Iraqi army , but my idea is this :
Let's imagine you are a soldier or a high rank in the military and suddenly you were dismissed from the service what will you do for a living?? Some (who has no criminal genes) will try to learn another profession since the only profession they know is killing and fighting, others will join any fighting side which will support them and give them money?? That's one theory, so what I want to say is that many wouldn't join or support Al-Qaeda is they were called back to the service, because before the war Al-Qaeda has no foundation in Iraq. I agree that some will still join Al-Qaeda , but most of them wouldn't , if they were called back they wouldn't loose the power at the same time work side by side with the US to improve Iraq and build the real democracy and freedom and in this way everyone will be happy the US troops and the Iraqis as well.
About your question to me, I have gone 5 times to mosques only, I rarely pray, and I fast just few days in Ramadan and also strongly believe in separation of mosque and the state, but this doesn't mean that I'm an atheist, no I believe in God, but I worship him in my own way, I believe that religion is to be good, nice to people, to help people and to be an ethical man. That's the religion in my opinion.
Lynnette;
Yes there is some troubles but it's not around my neighborhood , it's in Saidia neighborhood , Jaish Al-Mahdi is attacking the Sunni civilians with guns and mortars and burning the mosques there , I'll try to provide you with some real stories from there , I'll contact some people there to give you the real picture.
Mamaworecombatboots;
Thank you very much and welcome to my blog, thank you for the nice feelings you have.
Thanks, Mohammed.
With all the calls for "god" to do something, is exactly what allowed this to take place from way before Saddam ever thought of being a leader.
One faction against the others, and it all would disappear over night IF, all people took up the call for universal liberties for ALL. Freedom of your religion, as well as freedom from religious domination, is only a first step, without any law(s) manmdating any form of religious dogmas. A financial 'tax free' break is not the way to move toward this universal, peaceful goal for all living men women and children.
I am sickened that my nation, in my name, has done so much damage to peaceful people the world over.
Peace my brothers and sisters, my country has coveted your land. The people that have done this will not repent as scripture says they will not. They have created Al Qaeda and blame them for everything for they are one in the same. My beloved country of America will suffer greatly for this I fear, we can only pray for each other now. The President of Iran is here to address the U.N. and plea with the American people as the Koran tells him to do and the Bible. But the people don't see this for they are blinded by there hatered against a people they do not know. It say in scrupture that the KINGDOM of the North will not repent (NORTH AMERICA). It also says what will occur to them as well. We all must go thru this great pain before things will change for the better, have strength and peace. May Yahweh/Alla watch over you.
Mohammed? It is now late September and I haven't heard your voice since June ...
I have been following your discussion with Jeffrey. You have educated me and for that I thank you. What can we do for you brother?
gilariverrider,
Thank you very much for your concern , but where did you used to hear my voice?
Jeffrey is not visiting my blog anymore , I don't know why , I don't have a blogging brother , but I have two brothers in-law , you might be refering to Nabil ? right?
fD5DrG Your blog is great. Articles is interesting!
cOPyS5 Thanks to author.
FWlDx1 Magnific!
3pvkfv Magnific!
2FPqZp Please write anything else!
Magnific!
Magnific!
Please write anything else!
Good job!
Nice Article.
Please write anything else!
Magnific!
bXTqJv Thanks to author.
Nice Article.
Post a Comment